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| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on May 16, 2017, 07:10:21 PM ---Disney is forgetin' up the sequels, and there was only one out so far. --- End quote --- Rouge One was like one of the best movies of last year what the forget are you talking about |
| Alteration:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on May 16, 2017, 07:04:05 PM ---I agree hamfisting female characters into stuff is cringy, a la Ghostbusters, but I don't think Star Wars applies. How was she more of a Mary Sue than Luke? --- End quote --- >generic abandonment issues backstory >learns force without teacher, just "naturally gifted" >lives/lived in poverty on remote desert planet, similar to already existing main character >able to fend off professionally-trained (by Luke and Snoke) sith in both force-wielding and combat >probably gonna be a dark/gray (edgy) jedi in the next movie >white attractive girl Etc |
| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on May 16, 2017, 06:58:00 PM ---that creates the exact same problem the creative team behind the new Ghostbusters movie, aside from Paul Feig, was almost entirely women --- End quote --- That's too far of an extreme though. I'm talking about a roughly proportionate crew that has more than a small minority of women. For what it's worth though, no team could have written the Ghostbusters movie to be good, regardless of how the gender breakdown worked. They took a classic and decided to reboot it, which was already a fatal idea. There was no situation in which it could have been received well. |
| ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Alteration on May 16, 2017, 06:22:53 PM ---Thank god Rogue One gave us a good female lead in a SW movie. --- End quote --- I would argue the lead from Rogue One (so unmemorable I don't know her name) was very flat / with weak motivation This video sort of puts it better than I can --- Quote from: Cappytaino on May 16, 2017, 03:12:10 PM ---the first point is interesting because I think that a possible explanation is that movies that are marketed to women contain more women, but men are less likely to see those movies, so they won't sell as well. Compare The Avengers to Bridesmaids. Of the two movies, the Avengers is the most likely movie for men to watch. The protagonists of Bridesmaids are all female, but IMO it isn't as compelling to men, so they won't watch it. It isn't necessarily that men are avoiding movies starring women, but rather, that many of them just aren't interesting. I can tell you that personally, I'd have more fun shooting myself in the foot with a shotgun than watching a Melissa McCarthy movie. I don't hate women in starring roles, but I just don't find movies directed to women as compelling. I want metal, explosions, and mindless entertainment when I go to see a summer blockbuster. Not cheesy rom-com bullstuff. --- End quote --- There's nothing inherent to a cool action movie like The Avengers that requires all the characters to be male. The question then becomes "why are movies that are predominantly women so narrow in scope?" It's a complicated issue that has a lot to do with society and women I feel like. |
| PhantOS:
This could actually be really profitable. if you use machine learning to get the statistics of male female roles, their actors, how they acted and an array of other oscar winning qualities you can essentially come up with an oscar-winning algorithm say the top 10 films in history have a 3.2:1 male to female ratio and the worst films have a 1:3 male female ratio. then you can gather that movies with more male roles statistically do better. boom, now you just figured out a hidden trend that can help your movie profit over others ----- take good will hunting for example. mostly male roles. all protagonists are male. movie includes matt damon, about a student, etc. take all those together and make another mostly male movie with matt damon in it and you might just get another money making blockbuster |
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