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Richard Spencer gets bulied by woman in gym, loses gym membership
ultimamax:
--- Quote from: DestroyerOfBlocks on May 22, 2017, 01:08:17 AM ---i think badspot makes a reasonable point in that the specifics of legislating business discrimination for things like political beliefs and stuff is a bit of a loving mess. for example, a law that allows business owners to discriminate against tribals could be used to discriminate against supporters of any party that has passed legislation that might negatively impact one race, meaning the dems get stuff for affirmative action while the reps get stuff for trying to stop immigration. as far as i'm aware there are no bills proposed in this thread that would solve this stuff, and as long as there aren't badspots argument can't be refuted.
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There are already no laws against discrimination based on beliefs and nothing bad seems to have come because of it, besides Richard Spencer needing to do bodyweight squats in his bedroom.
Your brown townogy only makes sense if the law ONLY allows you to discriminate against tribals. The law lets you refuse service for any reason beyond discrimination of a protected class, and yet no one is banning democrats for affirmative action or republicans for their immigration policy - probably because banning a good half of the US population is very bad for business.
--- Quote from: Trogtor on May 22, 2017, 01:11:56 AM ---But Should The Christian Bakery Be Able To Deny Service From The Gay Wedding?
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no
LeisureSuit912:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on May 22, 2017, 01:04:47 AM ---
You let yourself go and turned into a complete autist after that point
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It's great how him just taking stuff out of context (I was talking about Hollywood celebrities watering down leftism through superficial identity politics) is now considered an "own", enough for you sycophants I think.
This is what I originally said, nowhere in it do I say "white people can't be leftist"
--- Quote ---Also, the myth that Hollywood is "left-wing" is bullstuff. Yeah, you get awards speeches by celebrities about diversity and loveuality all the time, but it's contained within a bubble of superficial centrist garbage that panders to people's liberal sensibilities. The studios are run by white people, the majority of producers are white, white actors and actresses get most of the recognition. Trust me, Hollywood isn't "left" outside of their canned speeches about liberal politics. The most telling thing should be that the same night the protests at JFK were going on, the SAG awards were that night and a ton of celebrities gave speeches about how terrible the Muslim ban was instead of joining the swath of protesters in the streets. Hollywood isn't run by leftists, it's run by neoliberals disguised as leftists.
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My point was that Hollywood actors and actresses constantly talk about their support for leftism but never involve themselves in any kind of real activism. But of course he can just water down the point into a strawman that's much easier for him to attack
--- Quote from: Red Spy on May 22, 2017, 01:05:40 AM ----snip-
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I think this just further cements you don't actually have any real beliefs and all you can do is respond with stuffty /pol/ memes
--- Quote from: DestroyerOfBlocks on May 22, 2017, 01:08:17 AM ---i think badspot makes a reasonable point in that the specifics of legislating business discrimination for things like political beliefs and stuff is a bit of a loving mess. for example, a law that allows business owners to discriminate against tribals could be used to discriminate against supporters of any party that has passed legislation that might negatively impact one race, meaning the dems get stuff for affirmative action while the reps get stuff for trying to stop immigration. as far as i'm aware there are no bills proposed in this thread that would solve this stuff, and as long as there aren't badspots argument can't be refuted.
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I'm not really talking about legislation, though. It's well within the parameters of private business to choose who you provide service to. And it's not really some kind of contradiction to say having a "whites only" store is bad but having a "no national socialists allowed" store is bad. There's a difference between ethnicity and having a political ideology that advocates for the destruction of all other ethnicities besides your own. I'm just saying it's a really bad argument because there's a clear difference between the two
Red Spy:
--- Quote from: LeisureSuit912 on May 22, 2017, 01:15:51 AM ---I think this just further cements you don't actually have any real beliefs and all you can do is respond with stuffty /pol/ memes
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"you don't believe anything because you posted a meme"
ok
LeisureSuit912:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on May 22, 2017, 01:20:48 AM ---"you don't believe anything because you posted a meme"
ok
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What do you believe in, then
Trogtor:
next thing you know I'm going to lose my Costco membership for liking pineapple pizza. this is a future i do NOT want!