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| Richard Spencer gets bulied by woman in gym, loses gym membership |
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| Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on May 22, 2017, 10:45:23 PM ---I do think it's weird that we're implying losing a gym membership equates to having your life ruined --- End quote --- I equate having your life ruined to being treated like stuff constantly for no justifiable reason he's a nerd but he doesn't deserve getting "punched" in the face nor losing his gym membership because somebody else was acting rude towards him |
| auzman466:
--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on May 21, 2017, 06:47:48 PM ---businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone. i wouldn't want an actual national socialist in my business, either. the fact that he goes to that gym would have been released regardless, so it's safe to say that having protestors gathering around a dude as he's working out is both unsafe and bad for business. fully justified in kicking this sorry excuse for a man out. --- End quote --- i mean, Riddler had similar ideas. we should burn the white supremacists too if the gym kicked out a famous, prolific gay man who believed gay people are fundamentally better than straight people, there'd be a lot of backlash. but this is okay. i don't agree with richard spencer's ideologies, but he was not in the wrong. |
| ultimamax:
--- Quote from: otto-san on May 22, 2017, 03:35:20 PM ---it is the same thing in a very particular sense: you're letting a business owner act as a moral arbitrator. if you allow businesses to be authoritative on what is and isn't acceptable, you immediately legitimize and create a pedestal for real discrimination. this is the fundamental problem with 'religious freedom' bills that allow business to do this, and the same principle does apply here. this is the sort of thing where a blanket statement on a particular ideology or trait is what's dangerous. the reality of the situation here is that this was not a blanket action, this was an action against a very specific individual for specific circumstances, and that is what makes this different. if a business has legitimate reason to believe that continuing to provide service to a customer will have a real negative impact on their business function, i would say it's very reasonable to deny service, and i get the impression that this is what happened here. --- End quote --- I think the reasons I gave were decidedly not moral (employee/customer comfortability and public relations) and that would differentiate it from 'religious freedom' type stuff. Also Poli told me someone said I was banned, I haven't been banned that was a lie |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on May 22, 2017, 11:30:09 PM ---I think the reasons I gave were decidedly not moral (employee/customer comfortability and public relations) and that would differentiate it from 'religious freedom' type stuff. Also Poli told me someone said I was banned, I haven't been banned that was a lie --- End quote --- i would definitely say that those reasons are valid so long as they are genuine concerns |
| Ragequit:
--- Quote from: crazies alt on May 22, 2017, 05:31:03 PM ---but was he ? ? ? --- End quote --- do u think im disagreeing with u because im not and i will loving end you if you do |
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