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| otto-san:
39000 is a more than adequate sample size, so long as it was a diverse random sample. a random sample size of just 1000 is generally considered to be adequately representative (edit: i figured it'd be good to source this since it seems really weird so i found this http://www.tools4dev.org/resources/how-to-choose-a-sample-size/ and i'll just assume that since i had heard it in AP gov class and it was mentioned here too that it's definitely a thing that statisticians agree with. solid logic on my part tbh). it'd do much better to argue against the application of these data points as substance for the arguments at hand. bring up other data points, like how a large proportion of muslims are placed in low-HDI, unstable regions, and how these poor conditions can lead to individuals being more likely to resort to terrorism. that'd be my advice at least |
| Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on May 22, 2017, 11:29:08 PM ---1) they are useful in specific situations, and for outlining trends. i dont mean to come off as 'these statistics dont fit my point of view' but using a small sample size to quantify beliefs of billions of humans isn't feasible --- End quote --- So because islam is so large, and we'll never be able to tackle a "meaningful size" of samples, all the statistics are inaccurate? --- Quote from: PhantOS on May 22, 2017, 11:29:08 PM ---2) neo national socialists can believe in whatever they want because im okay with freedom of speech and opinion. im not okay with a neo national socialist shooting up a black church, but that doesnt mean i use it to justify some sort of punishment for the other 99% of neo national socialists not involved --- End quote --- If neo national socialists started mass invading countries and started pushing national socialist bullstuff, alongside neo national socialist terrorism becoming a thing, then you might have an apt comparison. Because in this situation my point wpuld be the same. |
| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on May 22, 2017, 11:22:27 PM ---Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe? --- End quote --- This is the stupidest thing I've ever read |
| Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: otto-san on May 22, 2017, 11:30:53 PM ---39000 is a more than adequate sample size, so long as it was a diverse random sample. a random sample size of just 1000 is generally considered to be adequately representative. it'd do much better to argue against the application of these data points as substance for the arguments at hand. bring up other data points, like how a large proportion of muslims are placed in low-HDI, unstable regions, and how these poor conditions can lead to individuals being more likely to resort to terrorism. that'd be my advice at least --- End quote --- Besides the fact that terrorism is the peak of the iceberg known as islam, where they live and how they grew uo gives them no excuse to blow stuff up. And even if it did, that doesn't change the statistics. |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on May 22, 2017, 11:34:22 PM ---So because islam is so large, and we'll never be able to tackle a "meaningful size" of samples, all the statistics are inaccurate? Hf neo national socialists started mass invading countries and started pushing national socialist bullstuff, alongside neo national socialist terrorism becoming a thing, then you might have an apt comparison. Because in this situation my point wpuld be the same. --- End quote --- 1) essentially. You can come to a conclusion but using it to take action is a horrible decision master "people fleeing war torn countries in search of a better life are actually mass invading" matthew |
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