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[ALERT!] Terrorist Blows up Manchester Arena - Multiple Injured!
Red Spy:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on May 23, 2017, 12:39:08 AM ---Actively encouraging violence is also allowed.
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Is there like a sc case that rules this or are you pulling it out of your ass
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: otto-san on May 23, 2017, 12:41:21 AM ---i don't think that works here, because magus wasn't presenting a naive, "kill-them-with-kindness" diplomacy option, he was offering a valid point about potential real-world consequences of just sending refugees with no intent of violence back to the places they're trying to escape. if you could prove that someone had malintent, i don't think anyone would protest much against rejecting their entry as a refugee
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If we need to coddle them like children and give them whatever they want or else they will freak out and join CIA then they definitely loving have malintent.
PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on May 23, 2017, 12:42:08 AM ---Is there like a sc case that rules this or are you pulling it out of your ass
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our president recently encouraged violence. its not illegal to promote violent actions, but it is harassment/premeditation to promote intent of violence
PhantOS:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on May 23, 2017, 12:43:45 AM ---If we need to coddle them like children and give them whatever they want or else they will freak out and join CIA then they definitely loving have malintent.
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respecting the rights of innocent people is now 'coddling them like children'
what a world
otto-san:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on May 23, 2017, 12:42:08 AM ---Is there like a sc case that rules this or are you pulling it out of your ass
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this seems to be the most pertinent case: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1968/492
and it would seem to imply that no, speech that threatens to cause imminent criminal action is not protected.
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on May 23, 2017, 12:43:45 AM ---If we need to coddle them like children and give them whatever they want or else they will freak out and join CIA then they definitely loving have malintent.
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i never presented that argument, and if the context somehow gave the impression that i was implying it, i didn't mean for that to be the case. the point was that it's far more likely for an individual to become radicalized if they're rejected and cast out by the only societies that can give them hope for a better life, and it's very likely that they will instead flee toward a cause that convinces them of a promise for a better society if they're willing to fight for it.