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[FAKE NEWS] 'You were my guy,' Annoying Orange told Macron, French official says

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otto-san:


--- Quote from: Deus Ex on May 26, 2017, 07:09:21 PM ---I'm perfectly content with watching people continue to act in the same way that got Annoying Orange elected in the first place. :^]

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if you're going in the direction of "the left is the reason we're swinging right" then that's only slightly true. if people associate poor characteristics with an ideology they're already opposed to, then it will push them further in that direction, but in reality, this is happening both ways. the illusion that the left is the only one drifting is only apparent because you're standing on the right. in truth, both are drifting apart, and it's a self-sustaining cycle as common ground appears to continue deteriorating.

and really, our national political makeup can be considered pretty snugly within the margin of error. the senate is only barely held by republicans, the house only has a 55% majority, and the president landed in his seat with a popular loss, supposedly only winning due to the geographic advantages of being a republican candidate (that is to say, more regions tend to swing republican). if hillary clinton were not so distrusted and disliked by the american people, and if it weren't for the drama surrounding the DNC, we would almost certainly be seeing a democratic federal government right now, still within these margins of error, and i expect that, in either case, the president will likely suffer a significant midterm slump in 2018. of course, if hillary clinton weren't such a poorly viewed candidate, a different republican probably would have ended up winning the primaries as well.

Red Spy:

The national political swing is basically a football game

Deus Ex:


--- Quote from: otto-san on May 26, 2017, 07:49:15 PM ---if you're going in the direction of "the left is the reason we're swinging right" then that's only slightly true. if people associate poor characteristics with an ideology they're already opposed to, then it will push them further in that direction, but in reality, this is happening both ways. the illusion that the left is the only one drifting is only apparent because you're standing on the right. in truth, both are drifting apart, and it's a self-sustaining cycle as common ground appears to continue deteriorating.

and really, our national political makeup can be considered pretty snugly within the margin of error. the senate is only barely held by republicans, the house only has a 55% majority, and the president landed in his seat with a popular loss, supposedly only winning due to the geographic advantages of being a republican candidate (that is to say, more regions tend to swing republican). if hillary clinton were not so distrusted and disliked by the american people, and if it weren't for the drama surrounding the DNC, we would almost certainly be seeing a democratic federal government right now, still within these margins of error, and i expect that, in either case, the president will likely suffer a significant midterm slump in 2018. of course, if hillary clinton weren't such a poorly viewed candidate, a different republican probably would have ended up winning the primaries as well.

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In at least this election cycle, the left lost more support than the right, and I think that will continue for at least another election at the rate the democrats are going. The pendulum will, of course, swing back, but it might be a while before it does. I guess we'll see next year though. I don't really have high hopes for the Democrats atm, there seems to be a severe lack of introspect and an abundance of tribalism. The Republicans do the same, but what I'm saying is, right now, as it stands, the Democrats are being far worse, and that is a huge part of what cost them the election. All the BS with the DNC snubbing Sanders and Clinton being a completely unelectable candidate was just icing on the stuff cake. I had thought Annoying Orange would have a four year run, and during that time the Democratic Party would revise their strategy of race baiting identity politics and things of that nature, but it only seems to have worsened. So I honestly don't know. I could be wrong. Like I said, we'll all see next year where the country stands.

Maxwell.:


--- Quote from: Red Spy on May 26, 2017, 08:49:16 PM ---The national political swing is basically a football game

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everything in europe is decided by a football match it sucks

Nonnel:


--- Quote from: Maxwell. on May 26, 2017, 09:06:56 PM ---everything in europe is decided by a football match it sucks

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this is true. i was the football and can confirm it loving sucks

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