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Why is All Lives Matter considered tribal?
HypnoT:
--- Quote from: King Tøny on May 30, 2017, 11:00:57 AM ---I don't get it, don't all lives matter? Oh no, they say that by saying All Lives Matter you don't recognize black lives.
but BLM doesn't recognize asian, police, native american, etc lives.
Also it sounds egocentric when your group is called "Black Lives Matter" why isn't it called "Black Lives Matter, Too"
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ALM is not tribal imo but looking at it from an outside perspective it looks to be minimizing the efforts made by groups like BLM.
The point of groups like BLM is to emphasize the injustice towards a minority group, lumping them all together leaves them feeling further marginalized. BLM itself is not tribal since it's about equality and asking for equal stance, not about a race being better or worse than another.
--- Quote from: randomtroll39 on May 30, 2017, 11:03:43 AM ---Same with feminism, females have some advantages in life and so do males. Why is it focused on only one of the genders getting more rights.
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Your statement proves itself wrong, feminism isn't about getting MORE rights than men, it's about getting more rights to have the same amount of rights as men. It's easy to think that we are all born equal but in most cultures men are favoured over women. The bias towards men creates disproportionate ratios of men-to-women in colleges, universities, businesses, etc. The important thing to remember is that it isn't just about asking men to treat women equally, there are plenty of women who believe women should be dedicated family makers and house wives, they hinder younger women's development just as much if not more than men do since they are often the authority figures in young women's lives.
Other parts of the problem include the fact that men prefer working with other men so in an already male-dominated work environment they are more likely to hire other men to maintain the comfort level, same goes for promotions and bonuses hence the wage gap. Then there's other things too like marketing, games tend to have a male protagonist because most of the game creators are male, game consoles are targeted towards males, so the game is created to create a connection with a male player. The problem isn't with any individual part of the process it's a problem of an endless cycle that perpetuates a gender bias.
Doughboy:
i thought its because "black lives matter" has an implicit "too" at the end, whereas "all lives matter" is just a smartarse response that downplays the point of "black lives matter"
HypnoT:
--- Quote from: Doughboy on May 30, 2017, 02:45:32 PM ---i thought its because "black lives matter" has an implicit "too" at the end, whereas "all lives matter" is just a smartarse response that downplays the point of "black lives matter"
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Very much this, should have pointed that out in my wall of text lol
King Tøny:
If "black lives mattered, too" they'd show it with peace, not rampaging through cities, beating up white people and burning cars and stuff.
Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: Doughboy on May 30, 2017, 02:45:32 PM ---i thought its because "black lives matter" has an implicit "too" at the end, whereas "all lives matter" is just a smartarse response that downplays the point of "black lives matter"
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--- Quote from: King Tøny on May 30, 2017, 02:49:42 PM ---If "black lives mattered, too" they'd show it with peace, not rampaging through cities, beating up white people and burning cars and stuff.
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This, and "black lives matter" seems to have an implied more at the end, not a too, due to the way this group acts as a whole.