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| otto-san:
it's just often dismissive and used to deflect the problems BLM is protesting back onto black people. instead of acknowledging the problems that the movement brings up, it refuses to look at it deeper than its name, then dismisses the movement as a whole for being inherently tribal, which is a very convenient reversal for a movement that has its roots in individuals claiming to be the victim of institutional racism. it's low-effort rhetoric that people use to indirectly blame black people for their problems, or at the very least, divert attention from those problems with an accusation of racism |
| Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on May 30, 2017, 03:52:30 PM ---This statistic is about the actual numbers of people that are shot - this shouldn't be a surprise because white people are 63% of the US population and black people are only 12%. Source Please take your bullstuff narrative somewhere else. --- End quote --- If we're talking bullstuff narratives, the one you just pulled up is a fresh, hot, steaming pile of donkey turds. https://law.yale.edu/system/files/area/workshop/leo/leo16_fryer.pdf --- Quote from: Roland G. Fryer, Jr. ---This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings. --- End quote --- Black people commit over 50% of all homicides. White people commit 45% of them. That means that relatively, black people kill people about 7-10 times the rate that white people do. When black people kill, such as whites do, victims tend to be overwhelmingly members of the perpetrator's race. 93% of black-perpetrated homicides are against other blacks, and in 2015, about 6,000 blacks were killed by other blacks, as opposed to 258 killed by police, and that's not even to consider the justification for each shooting by police. These statistics have even been consistent for decades. Hostilities towards police can basically be explained by the breakdown of the African-American family and the increased aggressiveness towards the police brought on by rappers constantly yelling "forget the police" and other variations. If you don't have a father in the house, you are waaay more likely to become a criminal. This is proven fact. Even Obama commented on it. Considering the hellhole that the ghetto is and how the left just pulled the cops out of those neighborhoods (not literally of course), no stuff you're going to get tenser relations with cops. |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on May 30, 2017, 04:53:12 PM ---Hostilities towards police can basically be explained by the breakdown of the African-American family and the increased aggressiveness towards the police brought on by rappers constantly yelling "forget the police" and other variations. If you don't have a father in the house, you are waaay more likely to become a criminal. --- End quote --- i think poverty has a much more intimate link with crime than family influences, and i think poverty is also probably heavily involved in these family problems |
| King Tøny:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on May 30, 2017, 03:55:44 PM ---it's a hollow feel-good message that seeks to purposely belittle any racial movements because "The blacks think it's all about them", --- End quote --- Well it's true, right? After all the group is named "Black Lives Matter" not "Black Lives Also Matter" or "Black Lives Matter, too" So black lives are more important than Native American lives? Hispanic? Asian? Maybe they should change their group name. |
| Insert Name Here²:
Imo saying "all lives matter" is much better than just saying one racial group matters more than the others. |
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