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UK Election 2017 - ELECTION NIGHT
Kearn:
--- Quote from: Maxwell. on June 11, 2017, 08:51:21 PM ---still not as handicapped as the old men you support
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lol
sir dooble:
--- Quote from: Maxwell. on June 11, 2017, 08:32:01 PM ---shame because the SNP promised more than just independence. I wish that wasn't their biggest selling point to people, and people actually looked at what they've done for scotland already
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I think it was really really silly of Sturgeon to demand another referendum so soon after the Brexit referendum.
Once May put her foot down and said "no, now's not the time, maybe after we leave the EU", Sturgeon dropped it immediately.
So it came as a shock to me that it became part of the GE campaign.
The SNP really should drop independence for now and focus on running Scotland well.
They should use the time to prove that they can govern well, and then should Scotland ever choose independence the SNP will have a good chance of being chosen to run the country and do a good job.
Because as it stands currently, if Scotland were independent tomorrow, I don't think the people would entirely trust them to know how to run a fully autonomous nation.
Red Spy:
Theresa "lets hold an election oops almost got thrown out lol" May
Maxwell.:
--- Quote from: sir dooble on June 11, 2017, 09:00:35 PM ---The SNP really should drop independence for now and focus on running Scotland well.
They should use the time to prove that they can govern well, and then should Scotland ever choose independence the SNP will have a good chance of being chosen to run the country and do a good job.
Because as it stands currently, if Scotland were independent tomorrow, I don't think the people would entirely trust them to know how to run a fully autonomous nation.
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while I agree that they should stop focusing on independence as much (but not completely, as I think after brexit it should be held), I think people need to look past independence and see that they have been running scotland well already and what they can do for scotland in the future. they just need to use it as a campaign point more, I guess
sir dooble:
--- Quote from: Maxwell. on June 11, 2017, 09:03:17 PM ---while I agree that they should stop focusing on independence as much (but not completely, as I think after brexit it should be held), I think people need to look past independence and see that they have been running scotland well already. they just need to use it as a campaign point more, I guess
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Yeah, it's equal parts SNP doing more AND pointing out that they're doing more.
Obviously it would be silly to throw away the call for independence as an independence-party, but it should definitely be on the backburner. It's currently not going to make friends in Scotland OR the UK.
They should currently emphasise that they're the Scottish Nationalist Party, and not the Scottish Nationalist Party.
This is what UKIP didn't do, and now that we're no longer with the EU and they have no significant plans for the UK they're naturally losing most of their support.