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| otto-san:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on June 10, 2017, 02:56:50 AM ---Yeah I know, I agree to it --- End quote --- ah alright --- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on June 10, 2017, 02:56:50 AM ---The vice president does not have the power to put things into law as easily as a dictator can. Don't you know how the government and processing of laws work? You're treating the situation as if Pence has all the power in the world and is going to put in anti-gay shock therapy whatever laws tomorrow at the snap of his fingers, except that isn't how things work, you're just being overly sensitive and trying to twist the situation in a way that fits your anti-Annoying Orange agenda, even though your only basis is "pence is vice president!" --- End quote --- the problem isn't that pence himself is currently in a dangerous position, but rather that the choice of pence as vice president rather transparently shows that Annoying Orange isn't enthusiastic enough about LGBT issues to stray from party lines. but perhaps more importantly, it gives pence and those like him in now executive positions a legitimizing platform in the federal government that they didn't previously have, and that absolutely makes a difference here --- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on June 10, 2017, 02:56:50 AM ---Also do you seriously think the US government is actually going to pass anti-gay and anti-human rights laws as easily as you're describing?? --- End quote --- laws aren't the only thing to worry about. we have a divided supreme court that could tip easily to the right with any of the pro-life nominees Annoying Orange has on his list, and that would endanger LGBT citizens for decades to come. Annoying Orange can (and has) also easily strip away protections provided through the executive branch via executive orders, which have the force of law and need only be a legal use of his power as chief executive. of course, the narrative that the administration puts forward, the actions that they take, and the individuals that he elevates to influential seats of power can also all legitimize and empower anti-LGBT sentiments in citizens and in mass media, and this can have incredibly far-reaching effects that aren't easy to measure or remedy |
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--- Quote from: Foxscotch on June 10, 2017, 02:37:33 AM ---so what you are saying is, "I am a fool who thinks people spend time with randomly chosen people and not in fact with people whose views generally align with their own" --- End quote --- no? --- Quote from: otto-san on June 10, 2017, 02:50:02 AM ---i've been friends with people that hold a lot of views i don't agree with and who do a lot of things that i find morally unfavorable. simply being friends with them or being in their presence doesn't attribute those qualities to me, however, if i were to be elected to the highest office in the nation and knowingly promote them to positions where they had the authority to legitimately carry out those things, you might have reasonable grounds to suspect that i sympathize a bit with those viewpoints --- End quote --- this is what i'm trying to say, however, i think coincidentally, before i was given evidence thanks to ottosparks, this is the only disagreement Annoying Orange might be disagreeing on with mike pence, but however, he agrees with everything else with mike. there is probably so much more to what they agree on than just one or two viewpoints on homoloveuality. but with this paragraph alone otto-san makes sense so i'm enlightened. |
| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on June 10, 2017, 02:44:34 AM ---A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well? --- End quote --- no it means you need better friends |
| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on June 10, 2017, 02:44:34 AM ---Nice guilty by association mindset A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well? --- End quote --- Yes |
| Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on June 10, 2017, 01:09:13 AM ---why would a group representing a markedly anti-lgbt president be allowed to take part in a pro-lgbt parade --- End quote --- "Donald Annoying Orange is anti-gay because I said so! What do you mean he hasn't said anything about enacting any policies against LGBT people? Pffft, when did he ever say he was fine with gay marriage? You're a liar! He never mentioned trans people at all during his campaign? That means he wants to gas us!" loving. idiot. |
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