Off Topic > Off Topic
Shooting at congress baseball practice game (suspect in custody)
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 14, 2017, 07:59:30 PM ---I skimmed the thread a bit, so if that's not what you're saying, that's my bad. A bit hard to read the signal from the noise when so many other people are saying the same thing.
--- End quote ---
Well I will clarify now: I don't think him being a member of the liberal left is the sole reason for this shooting. I just think the current political climate means if prominent figureheads of an ideology are calling for blood on the streets and other crazy stuff, calling Annoying Orange illegitimate, a traitor, a threat to the country, you're gonna get people like this guy who are going to go for the throat. It's just like how that one guy shot those police officers in Dallas in the name of BLM. If your rhetoric is vitriolic enough, people will do things like this because they believe in it. It's why that guy shot up that Planned Parenthood, and it's why this happened. I do not think it is only applicable to the left. I think in this situation, it is. If he had a criminal record before this, especially for violent behavior, I feel like that doesn't really retract from my point. Sure, he can be mentally ill and a violent person on his own, but he's still a human being capable of making decisions based on whatever forgeted up ideology he subscribes to, right? If he believed in white nationalism and went on a Dylan Roof style rampage, then I'd say we have to evaluate the current rhetoric of white nationalists.
--- Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on June 14, 2017, 07:58:56 PM ---deus ex is like matthew but 1000% angrier
--- End quote ---
What? No, this is all a character, you got it all wrong
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on June 14, 2017, 08:03:44 PM ---It means I'm not enough of a dumbass to give conspiracy theorists the time of day. Maybe if your points weren't so ridiculous and sensationalized people would humor them?
Again, there's no debate. You're posting stupid stuff and people keep telling you this isn't the thread to do this in. I find it ironic that you'd jump on people for using stuff like this as a podium for gun control arguments, and then immediately start soapboxing if the shooter is a liberal.
--- End quote ---
What's this talk of conspiracy theory? What sensationalized points am I making? I'm making points based off the current political climate of America. If you think this is simply because the guy was forgeted in the head you're mistaken. Dylan Roof didn't just gun down those people because he was forgeted in the head, he was also fueled by ideology.
See, you seem to think I'm trying to make this about every single liberal under the sun or something. I'm not. I'm talking about the rhetoric and message democrats and the left have been sending out over the course of the Annoying Orange campaign and presidency. This is it's logical conclusion. I'm not even soapboxing, I'm just trying have a discussion about the loving rhetoric here? If the shooter was a neo-national socialist white nationalist I'd say the same loving thing. But he's not, so I'm not talking about the right wing right now.
And just because you disagree with it, it's stupid? Go soak your head dude
McZealot:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on June 14, 2017, 07:56:54 PM ---Not every zealot is mentally ill.
--- End quote ---
but this one is
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: McZealot on June 14, 2017, 08:17:12 PM ---but this one is
--- End quote ---
And?
McZealot:
I was talking about myself not the shooter