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The "The Last Night" stuffshow
Tactical Nuke:
Sargon sums it up pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ej3xzPLGc
--- Quote from: Sources ---http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/12/e3-game-developer-gets-flamed-on-twitter-for-not-being-feminist/
https://heatst.com/gaming/feminist-zoe-quinn-bullies-the-last-night-game-developer-for-criticizing-social-justice/
https://www.inverse.com/article/32837-the-last-night-xbox-gamergate-tim-soret-feminism
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Here is the trailer to "The Last Night", the game in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pupdeq1MoVw
The game looks great, yeah? It was trending massively on Twitter after it got released:
https://twitter.com/JoeKataldo/status/874043369395167232
Unfortunately, the reasons it was trending may have less to do with the game's success than with other, more toxic reasons.
Uh-oh.
Yep. Tim Soret, the creator and director of the game, was a part of #GamerGate three years ago. And he tweeted some stuff some people wouldn't like.
He also had some words to say about Anita Sarkeesian and her show:
https://archive.is/o/7MGVR/https://www.idlethumbs.net/forums/topic/9728-cyberpunk-cop-killah-aka-the-last-night/?do=findComment&comment=324938
Even better, here's what the plot of the game was rumored to be about:
--- Quote from: Inverse ---As for Soret and The Last Night, it’s the creator’s views coupled with the misguided cyberpunk setting in his new game that’s garnering criticism. While cyberpunk as a genre is often a critique of capitalism, in The Last Night, it’s against people. In The Last Night, players take control of a disillusioned character named Charlie who seeks to rebel against Socialist ideals such as universal income and leisure time afforded by automation. (The game’s Steam page contained a summary directly referring to universal income, but it has since been edited out.)
That’s not all, however. A few years ago, Soret (again, on Twitter) described his new game as a warning against “extreme progressivism,” portraying a dark world where “modern feminism won, instead of egalitarianism.”
“Our game The Last Night will take place in a cyberpunk world where modern feminism won, instead of egalitarianism,” wrote Soret in his now-deleted tweets — archived by the internet — with the hashtags #gamergate and #notyourshield. “I find it interesting to show the danger of extreme progressivism, in the background of the game, the characters, and the story. Finally, we’ll have another take on the cyberpunk oppression instead of Big Brother/1984/HAL/big companies. What if the surveillance, bullying, marginalization won’t come from governments but from the Internet?”
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So now it's time for our resident stuff-stirrer and DDoS'er Zoe Quinn to get involved!
And what happens next? Take a guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIG2Y4h_NQ
--- Quote from: Raw Fury, game publisher ---We at Raw Fury believe in equality, believe in feminism, and believe everyone has a right and chance at the equal pursuit of happiness. We would not be working with Tim Soret / Odd Tales at all if we believed they were against these principles in any aspect.
The wording of his statements toward feminism in 2014 was poor, and his buying into GamerGate as a movement on the notion that it represented gamers against journalists was naive, but in the same year he also cheered the rise of women in gaming.
In a similar situation as the one happening now, folks on the IdleThumbs forums found questionable tweets and Tim took it upon himself to address them. What came from that was a dialogue where different viewpoints were considered and debated in a purposeful way.
A lot can change in three years, including viewpoints, and Tim has assured us that The Last Night does not spout a message steeped in regressive stances. We trust Tim and know that he is an advocate for progression both in and outside of our industry, and we hope that this will be apparent moving forward.
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So basically, a stuffshow of regressives and progressives and #GamerGate and all of it sums up to a potentially good game with an interesting story getting altered or canned all together. Great.
forgetin' /discuss
torin²:
SARGON OF AKKAD IS A child enthusiast
Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: torin² on June 15, 2017, 02:56:14 PM ---SARGON OF AKKAD IS A child enthusiast
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Lol, okay torin.
Kringleberg:
typical master matthew, posting in threads
torin²:
--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on June 15, 2017, 03:03:05 PM ---Lol, okay torin.
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Praise kek bro!!