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| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Planr on June 18, 2017, 05:16:22 PM ---I'm only interested in science as far as it allows us to get cool stuff and have cool homes in cool places. --- End quote --- Well, science and engineering are kind of inseparable at this point, so you'll get that no matter what. Remember though that NASA's engineering feats are driven by scientific curiosity, so if you want people on Mars you're going to have to let them do their research. --- Quote from: Planr on June 18, 2017, 05:16:22 PM ---I'm willing to bet that had we not undergone the rapid technological advancements that came as a side effect of World War II, our current level of technology would be on par with the 1970s or 1980s. --- End quote --- Probably? But NASA is itself evidence that careful government spending can produce comparable tech booms to a war that killed off 3% of the world population. Something to consider I guess. |
| Planr:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 18, 2017, 05:17:43 PM ---Well, science and engineering are kind of inseparable at this point, so you'll get that no matter what. Remember though that NASA's engineering feats are driven by scientific curiosity, so if you want people on Mars you're going to have to let them do their research. --- End quote --- I guess you could say, you gotta let Jimbo do his math homework before he can pass the class --- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 18, 2017, 05:17:43 PM ---Probably? But NASA is itself evidence that careful government spending can produce comparable tech booms to a war that killed off 3% of the world population. Something to consider I guess. --- End quote --- The only reason NASA has been so successful, let alone that it even exists, is because of the cold war. It only took just under 11 years after it was founded, in the dead heat of competition with the Soviets, for NASA to land us on the moon. The communists were so embarrassed by what we had acheived they tucked tail and never went to the moon. The spirit of competition is the cornerstone engine of civilization's progression. |
| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Planr on June 18, 2017, 05:19:29 PM ---The only reason NASA has been so successful, let alone that it even exists, is because of the cold war. It only took just under 11 years after it was founded, in the dead heat of competition with the Soviets, for NASA to land us on the moon. The communists were so embarrassed by what we had acheived they tucked tail and never went to the moon. --- End quote --- I don't think we've seen a massive stall in progress just because we aren't on the brink of nuking each other anymore. On the contrary, I think organizations like the ESA and NASA have managed to become even more productive by working collaboratively and peacefully. It's true that their history is rooted in wartime competition, but so much has been done in times of peace. I'm very excited to see what India's fledgling space program will accomplish. They've already managed to develop similar technologies, but on a much more efficient and cheaper scale given a significantly tighter budget. This kind of work is very important as we start sending people really deep into space, where a depression or a cut in funding might literally mean leaving people stranded or without proper support. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29341850 |
| Drydess:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on June 18, 2017, 05:14:55 PM ---maybe we could reallocate some of the ridiculous military fund to research --- End quote --- the thing about this is that the branch of the air force that actually launches and builds for nasa is extremely underbudgeted (or rather mismanaged), so that wouldn't particularly help |
| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on June 18, 2017, 05:14:55 PM ---maybe we could reallocate some of the ridiculous military fund to research --- End quote --- we spend as much if not more on social security can we ditch that too |
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