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| King Tøny:
America back when the Natives had it was known as a continent, not a country. Antarctica had loving eskimos but that doesn't mean it's a country, it's still a continent to this day. These dumb ass indians don't know how to claim ownership, now they sit in their casino reservations drinking listerine and making money off the white man. They're fine. |
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--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 20, 2017, 09:05:14 PM ---No, you did mean to say illegally because you were confused about immigration versus illegal immigration. --- End quote --- no i didn't, i have actually and accidentally added illegally. the dictionary definition i provided out otherwise would contradict me. good try though trying to use that against me. --- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 20, 2017, 09:05:14 PM ---All three of these points are bullstuff. Native American societies had complex, stratified governments with trade and warfare. --- End quote --- the only thing i've seen so far are tribes in north america in my US history but can you give me a source otherwise? |
| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Timestamp on June 20, 2017, 09:06:51 PM ---the only thing i've seen so far are tribes but can you give me a source otherwise? --- End quote --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_Empire (suspected to be the largest human empire in the 16th century, including Europe) |
| Renderman In A Bowl:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 20, 2017, 09:08:46 PM ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_Empire (suspected to be the largest human empire in the 16th century, including Europe) --- End quote --- The only empire that existed in North America during 15th-16th century was the Aztecs, and they were basically destroyed by Spaniards. You could count the Iroquois, Chickasaw, Cherokee and a few others as civilizations but they were mostly tribes. |
| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Renderman In A Bowl on June 20, 2017, 09:12:34 PM --- The only empire that existed in North America during 15th-16th century was the Aztecs, and they were basically destroyed by Spaniards. You could count the Iroquois, Chickasaw, Cherokee and a few others as civilizations but they were mostly tribes. --- End quote --- Early American settlers were tribes by the same metric. I don't understand this philosophy whereby people think Native Americans had no concept of sovereignty just because they had smaller populations with less technology. There are records of tribes fighting over land, which inherently implies that they had a concept of land sovereignty, which basically means they were a country. |
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