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| Juncoph:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 20, 2017, 10:40:00 PM ---But the fact that it did exist is what we're talking about. People were making the same arguments that you are right now, but against Catholics and the Pope during the Crusades. In retrospect, we realize that it's stupid to blame Catholics for violence when their religion wasn't the ultimate cause, but you seem to be unable to extrapolate that logic to the modern age. I mean, neither does the Quran in the way that CIA commits violence. Both the Quran and Bible have plenty of verses about stoning certain people for certain behavior, and, given the need for some kind of violent insurgency, extremists have occasionally exploited both texts as a reason to mobilize violence against other people. Arguably most modern religions reflect 'reformation' from a pre-existing faith. The way new religions are created is that a reasonably-sized sect of believers decide to separate, and then their independent beliefs evolve into a distinct faith. Same reason why a bunch of Middle-Eastern Jews turned into Christians. --- End quote --- the difference between the bible and the quran is that the bible doesn't have a law specifically forbidding reform (bid'ah). mainstream christian denominations have no such concept- the closest christianity ever got to such a stuffty ideology was when the papacy essentially became western europe's de facto suzerein up until the protestant reformation and tried to suppress all dissenting thought (e.g. albigensian genocide) strictly organized, centralized and militant theologies are a terrible concept and always lead to theological dictatorship. the fact that christianity has such a past does not justify modern islam being similarly awful --- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on June 20, 2017, 11:09:20 PM ---Jesus is one of the most well-respected prophets in Islam. That sounds pretty similar to me? At least compared to like, Rastafarianism. --- End quote --- prophet in islam? yes son of god and thus god (the holy trinity is loving stupid) in islam? no |
| McZealot:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on June 20, 2017, 11:45:28 PM ---apparently YouTube is now removing dislikes --- End quote --- You got any evidence for that, or are you just spewing more conspiratorial bullstuff? |
| Silreath:
--- Quote from: McZealot on June 21, 2017, 01:13:04 AM ---You got any evidence for that, or are you just spewing more conspiratorial bullstuff? --- End quote --- hey man, no need to be so hostile. remember the human --- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on June 20, 2017, 11:45:28 PM ---apparently YouTube is now removing dislikes --- End quote --- i wouldn't doubt it, to be honest, but some proof would be nice. |
| King Tøny:
The main reason no one takes this seriously is because majority of refugees are males 20-40. You will rarely see a woman, child or old person. Yet this video managed to find them, give me a break. |
| Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: Silreath on June 21, 2017, 01:17:51 AM --- i wouldn't doubt it, to be honest, but some proof would be nice. --- End quote --- there isn't much proof, which is why I said "apparently" the comments section is on fire with it so that's why I mentioned it |
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