Are all illegal immigrants criminals? : The Great Debate Topic

[King Tøny]

i'm a liberal, i don't obsess about other people's problems, i focus on what helps people in need

So you obsess about other people's problems when they can't get into america?

You know, if you helped them in their time of need in mexico they wouldn't need to migrate to america, lol.

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[Juncoph]

Not to mention that illegal immigration is a victimless crime, the same category as adultery, drug abuse, or gambling. It's 100x more hazardous to drive a car slightly drunk than to overstay your visa.
the answer is yes obviously

didnt see this

unregulated immigration left unchecked usually leads to worsened conditions for the working class because the labor pool at their level has expanded and as a result employers get to pick and choose more

[Drydess]

the exact same thing happens with legal immigration as well, when that happens the world just scales upwards

[LeisureSuit912]

This isn't the real great debate topic

[Nonnel]

this debate topic sucks

[otto-san]

didnt see this

unregulated immigration left unchecked usually leads to worsened conditions for the working class because the labor pool at their level has expanded and as a result employers get to pick and choose more

i mean, economically, that would just mean the working class has expanded. effectively, the same thing happens with economic globalization, so it's not going to go away unless you restrict international labor trades as well. problems with employers illegally/unfairly offering low wages can be solved by holding employers more accountable (since they could easily just offer immigrants equal wages) or by making it less possible for employers to hold deportation over their workers' heads by creating easier paths to citizenship

[Niblic²]

honestly all immigrants not only illegal immigrants are criminals just as bad as murderers and rapeists i have first hand experience of their barbarianism --- back in 2015 i saw millions of immigrants galloping across time square on all fours like a pack of wild hyenas and they were eating every U.S. citizen they saw and rape and ululating like savage apes, when i went to report this to the N.Y.P.D. they shook their heads and turned the other cheek , saying "our hands are tied... this is obamas america now... "\that night i wept not for the innocent lives taken that day but the depths of depravity through which america has fallen, i rejoice at the brave revolutionaries who have seized the white house from the in-human liberal puppemasters but i fear that even they r powerless to stop this....

[Electrk.]

yes

[AndroFox]

The U.S. citizenship application process can take less than a year

it also costs money and you require a visa which depending on which one you get, also costs a lot of money and time

i'm currently trying to go to immigrate to the US legally but I've had a visa denied and the entire immigration process is going to cost about $7000 or more

I'm not a murderer or a rapist either, I just want to live with my special other

[OrangeMan²]

you have to go back

[Steve5451²]

i'm currently trying to go to immigrate to the US

why

[AndroFox]

why

because someone I love lives there, but the US immigration law is making it difficult

[Krupp Lancaster]

'Illegal' is part of their name, so yes/

[Juncoph]

the exact same thing happens with legal immigration as well, when that happens the world just scales upwards

i mean, economically, that would just mean the working class has expanded. effectively, the same thing happens with economic globalization, so it's not going to go away unless you restrict international labor trades as well. problems with employers illegally/unfairly offering low wages can be solved by holding employers more accountable (since they could easily just offer immigrants equal wages) or by making it less possible for employers to hold deportation over their workers' heads by creating easier paths to citizenship

except illegal immigrants have no rights or papers

as a result, when they compete with the native working class the native working class has to go below minimum wage

[PhantOS]

if they're working below minimum wage then their employer is taking advantage of them, and you should direct your anger towards the dishonest employer.

Illegal immigrants may not have the rights of citizens, but the employer doesn't have the right to violate wage laws