The shifting politics of inequality and the class ceiling

[PhantOS]

but that's part of it. if people feel exploited there will be civil unrest. it's a cause and effect. if you don't raise the minimum wage then people will be unhappy. Saying one side is wronger than the other is subjective.

either they change the wage or people will strike. the business isn't wrong, nor are the strikers. but there will be consequences either way, and that's what matters. obviously in this case, changing the minimum wage is objectively worse than leaving it because raising the minimum wage on a huge scale will simply cause inflation and put strain on the economy.

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[Karl Marx]

but the employer-employee relationship is entirely consensual, which is why I don't believe that to be exploitation.

What would you consider a non-consensual employment? A situation in which you have no autonomy, no choice over ypur employment? In that case, would slavery not be exploitation? The slave is given the option to be killed rather than work. The homeless man is given the option to beg for scraps or starve. The laborer is given an option, too. Live without working, doomed forever to poverty, or accept meager portions of the revenue he generates for a business.

When one option is the only reasonable choice, does that mean the offer is moral?
It's your choice.

[IkeTheGeneric]

They believe their labor is worth more and they are being unfairly taken advantage of, but the employer-employee relationship is entirely consensual, which is why I don't believe that to be exploitation.

It's really not about whether or not there is a problem sometimes, but rather some large group of outspoken people believe there is a problem. They believe this, and this is why they're advocating for the raising of the minimum wage. You believe differently, but you're not out there advocating your belief. Humoring the idea that minimum wage could be changed through advocacy, there's a better chance of it being raised than it staying at what you believe is an acceptable rate. Whether or not there was an actual problem with minimum wage is irrelevant.

Your belief may be perpetuated if those in charge believe maintaining status quo with minimum wage is more beneficial, but if the movement to increase minimum wage gains more traction as time moves on, it may be a matter of time until those people in charge are replaced with individuals more sympathetic with the movement.

[Tactical Nuke]

What would you consider a non-consensual employment? A situation in which you have no autonomy, no choice over ypur employment? In that case, would slavery not be exploitation? The slave is given the option to be killed rather than work. The homeless man is given the option to beg for scraps or starve. The laborer is given an option, too. Live without working, doomed forever to poverty, or accept meager portions of the revenue he generates for a business.

When one option is the only reasonable choice, does that mean the offer is moral?
It's your choice.

this reminds me of when seventh said everything was Self Delete