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The shifting politics of inequality and the class ceiling

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beachbum111111:


--- Quote from: PhantOS on July 08, 2017, 12:55:55 AM ---do you think if the greeks and romans hadn't taken over egypt there would still be egyptian pharoahs today

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No the Caliphates would have still expanded.

Ceist:


--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on July 08, 2017, 01:07:10 AM ---No the Caliphates would have still expanded.

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this is a big assumption, especially considering that romans and greeks expanded before christianity even existed.

Karl Marx:

Completely blowing off the genuine fact that the only attempts at communism have either been suppressed by the state or controlled centrally by a dictatorship simply because you've heard the argument many times doesn't make it any less correct. You're operating under the assumption that because people are disregarding the notion, it must be for a reason, and considering the argument invalid. This is a destructive mindset to have, because you've essentially cut off most reasonable arguments for one side of the debate before actually hearing them out.

Ceist:


--- Quote from: Karl Marx on July 08, 2017, 01:14:21 AM ---Completely blowing off the genuine fact that the only attempts at communism have either been suppressed by the state or controlled centrally by a dictatorship simply because you've heard the argument many times doesn't make it any less correct. You're operating under the assumption that because people are disregarding the notion, it must be for a reason, and considering the argument invalid. This is a destructive mindset to have, because you've essentially cut off most reasonable arguments for one side of the debate before actually hearing them out.

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There should be no debate. True Communism is not feasible simply because humans are garbage and not mechanical.

Looks good on paper, but in practice, not so much. History has taught us this.

Nonnel:

I think a classless society (where money and the state still exist, but there are no multi-million dollar corporations or ultra-inflated medicine) is viable.

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