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Modern rap degeneracy
Tactical Nuke:
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my biiiiiiiike x50
critically acclaimed song by Queen
Thom Yorke is barely in tune half the time and Bob Dylan is whiny as stuff yet they're both musical gods, your argument is invalid
though it's def cringey to watch a bunch of people act all cool because they're listening to some rapper talk about his bitch for five minutes over a random sample from another artist who probably doesn't even know his work is being used like that
ShadowsfeaR:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on July 15, 2017, 12:39:55 PM ---once again good music is subjective. the main determining factor isn't how 'good' it is, it's how many people like it.it has some correlation but not causation
also big shot producers like metro boomin or zaytoven are actually musically talented and put a lot of effort into their production, while people like dj khaled just sit around and shout their name
the social aspect of it is why it's so popular. it's also why madonna and mj were popular, because their songs became a thematic staple in cinema and tv shows almost instantly. thriller isn't like, an amazing song that absolutely captivates the listener. however, it is a radio friendly easy to listen to song that many people enjoy and that's what matters
you could make the best song in the world that only 2 people like and it would only be popular amongst those two people. or you could make a somewhat okay song that 100 million people like, which is objectively better since you're meeting the needs of like 999,999,998 more people. part of success is balance, not just stretching your listener base thin by choosing a really hit and miss style that only a few people will like thoroughly
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Michael Jackson made some incredible music and his vocal chops set a precedent for a SWATHE of modern vocalists and musicians. To say he was popular because of a few hit movie tracks is to undersell how much of an incredible musician he was as well, along with the musicians he wrote with.
Doughboy:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on July 15, 2017, 12:57:01 PM ---I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my biiiiiiiike x50
critically acclaimed song by Queen
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i agree with what you're trying to get at but bicycle race does have other lyrics than the chorus
Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: ShadowsfeaR on July 15, 2017, 01:01:30 PM ---Michael Jackson made some incredible music and his vocal chops set a precedent for a SWATHE of modern vocalists and musicians. To say he was popular because of a few hit movie tracks is to undersell how much of an incredible musician he was as well, along with the musicians he wrote with.
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not to mention the guy took the time to craft his own dance moves and choreography
any pop artist who dances, like Chris Brown or MC Hammer, they wouldn't exist without MJ
--- Quote from: Doughboy on July 15, 2017, 01:07:21 PM ---i agree with what you're trying to get at but bicycle race does have other lyrics than the chorus
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ya like
biiiiiicycle, biiiiicycle
I want to ride my
biiiiiicycle, biiiiiicycle x100
Karl Marx:
I'm not a fan of rappers using the same 808 beat with uninspired delivery, but you don't have to listen to that if you don't want to.
The real problem lies with the commercial rejection of any form of experimentation not executed by well-established artists. This diminishes creativity and upholds only the records guaranteed to capitalize off of market trends.