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[noose] transgenders not allowed in military
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--- Quote from: Karl Marx on July 26, 2017, 05:28:28 PM ---I mean he's right your argument was garbage
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Speak for yourself, considering you've been loving permanently banned for how garbage your political agenda is
ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Rally on July 26, 2017, 05:26:06 PM ---< muh cosmetic surgery
Yeah if only you could actually compare completely destroying natural processes of the body to straightening a nose by a couple degrees, your argument would be so easy to make. Cool 6 gorrilion years of Certified Liberal research bro
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In what way are you disabled if you're trans? If you're infertile and you told no one, no one would know - not only that but you can have your sperm or eggs stored so that you can still have biological kids later.
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--- Quote from: PhantOS on July 26, 2017, 05:28:21 PM ---what argument is there? you're absolutely correct that the military should be focused on fighting and not administering hormone treatment
lucky for you, that's how our military has operated for the last 6 years. if you don't know what that means, it means that 4% of the military that is transgender has successfully been transgender while focusing on, you know, serving in the military. so you're intended point that transgender people are a burden to the military is objectively false, and in the cases where it is objectively true, ie, people currently on hormone treatment, they wouldn't be allowed into the military.
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Oh lmao glad you actually agree then, the way you kept doing the "tfw" garbage made it seem like you were disagreeing and purposefully trying to be annoying about it
Yeah if they've already transitioned and are actually stable both mentally and physically, they should be allowed in. If they aren't stable with their emotions and or are still transitioning and getting surgery / recovering from it, they shouldn't be allowed in until verified by a doctor or medical professional
Rally:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on July 26, 2017, 05:31:14 PM ---In what way are you disabled if you're trans? If you're infertile and you told no one, no one would know - not only that but you can have your sperm or eggs stored so that you can still have biological kids later.
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In what way are you disabled if you're an amputee? If you're wearing long pants and you didn't show anybody, no one would know - not only that but you can get a prosthetic leg so you can still walk.
Is this what the conditioning seriously gets people to say? forget me. We're really not far off from normalizing BIID aren't we
Pecon:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on July 26, 2017, 05:33:48 PM ---Yeah if they've already transitioned and are actually stable both mentally and physically, they should be allowed in. If they aren't stable with their emotions and or are still transitioning and getting surgery / recovering from it, they shouldn't be allowed in until verified by a doctor or medical professional
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The way they have operated for the past 6 years does exactly this. Now fully qualified people are going to be denied because they're trans and for no other reason than that.
--- Quote from: Rally on July 26, 2017, 05:38:52 PM ---In what way are you disabled if you're an amputee? If you're wearing long pants and you didn't show anybody, no one would know - not only that but you can get a prosthetic leg so you can still walk.
Is this what the conditioning seriously gets people to say? forget me. We're really not far off from normalizing BIID aren't we
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Last I checked being sterile doesn't have any affect on your physical or mental performance. Amputees are not even remotely relevant here.