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| i am very glad trans aren't allowed in the military |
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| Snaked_Snake:
--- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on July 27, 2017, 06:24:40 AM ---I don't see whats so wrong about this. It saves money, and a lot of transgenders only join the military just so that they can get surgery. Not to mention they can be unstable at times due to their hormone supplements. --- End quote --- Are you really not even reading up on this? People with HIV are allowed in the military, it would cost a lot to treat them, so how about we ban them? What about those with serious allergies, how about we ban them? It's not right and the whole cost thing is completely bullstuff. |
| Sheepocalypse:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on July 27, 2017, 06:39:23 AM ---Are you really not even reading up on this? People with HIV are allowed in the military, it would cost a lot to treat them, so how about we ban them? What about those with serious allergies, how about we ban them? It's not right and the whole cost thing is completely bullstuff. --- End quote --- Wouldn't mind a HIV ban. Soldiers with allergies isn't too big of an issue as they don't need surgery to take allergy medication. (My allergy meds aren't expensive, at least.) Theres no reason to normalize gender dysphoria. We don't allow soldiers with depression into the military, we don't allow soldiers with many mental illnesses, actually. Just because he didn't knock out a super large portion of military spending doesn't mean he's not helping. |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on July 27, 2017, 06:24:40 AM ---It saves money --- End quote --- $8 million dollars total, to be exact. For comparison, every time Annoying Orange goes golfing, the american people have to pay $3.6 million dollars, and he goes golfing 8 times a year. so discriminating against people for their 14th amendment choice will save 2.2 Annoying Orange golfing trips. Would that make you happy- to have people's desire to serve their country denied for 2 golfing trips? --- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on July 27, 2017, 06:24:40 AM ---and a lot of transgenders only join the military just so that they can get surgery. --- End quote --- this is objectively false and you have no proof to back it up, unless your idea of 'a lot' is actually the minority, in which case you'd be right --- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on July 27, 2017, 06:24:40 AM --- Not to mention they can be unstable at times due to their hormone supplements. --- End quote --- the ban is against all transgender people, not the ones on hormone suppliments. people taking medication shouldn't be allowed into the military. but there's millions of transgender people who aren't on hormone suppliments, either because they finished the transition already or they aren't physically changing their love organs --- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on July 27, 2017, 06:24:40 AM ---we don't allow soldiers with many mental illnesses, actually. --- End quote --- yes, which is why the government banned homoloveuals from enlisting up until 2011- because homoloveuality was a 'mental disorder' .similarly, the idea that identifying as something else is a mental disorder is bullstuff and doesn't warrant as a mental disability. the fact that it's in DSM doesn't make much of a difference on how they constantly update definitions to suit their studies. if you can look me in the eyes and say being transgender is a debilitating disease that affects your ability to take on military related tasks you might as well also stare at your ass, because just like you it's full of stuff --- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on July 27, 2017, 07:00:27 AM ---Wouldn't mind a HIV ban. --- End quote --- I believe this is already in play. If you're unfit for military duty by health issue they will honorably discharge you. all in all the only reason you find this good is because you'll get 0.00000000001% of a cent of tax money back, 10-20 people who 'abuse' the military funding for necessary medication will be kicked out, and that's literally it. if you just absolutely despise transgender people for making their own choices about their body, that might also be a reason. maybe you just want to see liberals angry. i won't judge |
| Snaked_Snake:
Thing is, what if they're highly skilled soldiers? Shouldn't just kick them out because they have an STD or they're transgender, and they shouldn't be denied entry just because of it too. |
| General:
Transgendered people have a mental disorder called Gender Dysphoria which can cause complications such as depression and suicidal thoughts, they are therefore unstable to serve in the military. |
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