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| Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: McZealot on July 28, 2017, 07:42:02 PM ---You aren't hoping for them to die--you're just going to let them die because you don't care about their lives. What's the difference? You're sitting back and letting people suffer and die and go bankrupt because you'd save a minuscule amount of money. That's so much better dude. You should be proud. --- End quote --- YES, IT IS DIFFERENT, because when you say I HOPE someone dies that means I am actively wishing for their deaths, and I'm not, so forget off with that bullstuff demonizing rhetoric. I'm simply saying if they drop dead from not having insurance it's not my fault for not wanting to pay extra taxes. That's like saying it's my fault Africans are currently starving to death because I didn't donate to charity, or there's dogs and cats getting gassed to death because I didn't donate enough to PETA. Shut up. --- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on July 28, 2017, 07:49:17 PM ----snip- --- End quote --- You've already given me this sob story and I've already stated it's not my problem and I don't want to pay for your diabetes. I've already explained how insurance costs would lower due to actual competition instead of the state-wide monopolies Obamacare has allowed to take control. You would get affordable care by a company who's prices are low enough because if they didn't offer low enough prices they wouldn't get any business. It's not rocket science, you guys are just afraid to lose your free healthcare. Well not everything is free, someone has to pay for it, and I'd rather not. It's that simple. --- Quote from: PhantOS on July 28, 2017, 07:53:16 PM ---well if i lose coverage i'm going to have to pay an extra $260 every month out of my would-be savings just so i can breathe without agony. i dont have that kind of money --- End quote --- Get a job that has health insurance then. I don't see why I have to pay for you to keep breathing. I don't care how heartless it sounds, that's how it is. Someone in the middle of bumforget Tennessee shouldn't have to subsidize healthcare for Little Timmy who has a heart condition. I wouldn't expect other people to pay for my health insurance, so I don't see why I should be expected to do the same for other people. Is it selfish? Yes. Why am I not allowed to be selfish? I work and I earn money for MYSELF, not for the whole country or what the forget ever you guys think. I get taxed to keep the government running, not to make sure you get to live comfy. YOU work so YOU get to live comfy. |
| IdeTheBird:
--- Quote from: Bisjac on July 28, 2017, 02:51:34 PM ---http://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-calls-for-courage-to-fix-obamacare now obama is begging the dems to repair his broken bill. forget him and his bad idea. im glad its falling flat on it's face. they can own it and will look the fools when it happens (its been already happening for a year and its glorious) --- End quote --- I don't know if it's completely 'fell on it's face', yet. But it will for sure eventually. |
| Acerblock:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:02:57 PM ---You've already given me this sob story and I've already stated it's not my problem and I don't want to pay for your diabetes. I've already explained how insurance costs would lower due to actual competition instead of the state-wide monopolies Obamacare has allowed to take control. You would get affordable care by a company who's prices are low enough because if they didn't offer low enough prices they wouldn't get any business. It's not rocket science, you guys are just afraid to lose your free healthcare. Well not everything is free, someone has to pay for it, and I'd rather not. It's that simple. --- End quote --- I just, ok I don't get it anymore, why does everyone act like health care is this huge commodity that needs competition and companies and all this other crap, health care is not a true free market, never has, never will be. That, plus a lot of other factors, is why in my opinion, of course universal systems are going to be far more advantageous. Sure not everything is perfect, but I do think it's better. --- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:02:57 PM ---Get a job that has health insurance then. I don't see why I have to pay for you to keep breathing. I don't care how heartless it sounds, that's how it is. Someone in the middle of bumforget Tennessee shouldn't have to subsidize healthcare for Little Timmy who has a heart condition. I wouldn't expect other people to pay for my health insurance, so I don't see why I should be expected to do the same for other people. Is it selfish? Yes. Why am I not allowed to be selfish? I work and I earn money for MYSELF, not for the whole country or what the forget ever you guys think. I get taxed to keep the government running, not to make sure you get to live comfy. YOU work so YOU get to live comfy. --- End quote --- I mean regardless of myself disagreeing with you on a moral and political basis, I do commend you for being brutally honest. That is what allows for the most open and constructive discussions on policy and substance, and you have to have guts to come right out and not care what other people think of your opinion, no matter if it is controversial or not. |
| Karl Marx:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on July 28, 2017, 08:58:23 PM ---why is it that whenever you post something political you come off as a condescending little stuff? everyone else is here arguing like a normal person but you come in like 'no you're all evil you want poor people to die forget all of you' how small of a loving bubble do you live in to say something like that? you don't know a single thing about me, or for that matter, anyone here. this might be a shock to you but you're not a great debater, you just come in and stuff on everyone you don't like --- End quote --- Rare footage of pot calling kettle black must see 2017 |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:02:57 PM ---Get a job that has health insurance then. --- End quote --- i do. i don't know if they are using a private sector for health insurance or public, but i think im reasonably sure not everyone is as lucky as i am to find a small business that has as many benefits as the one i work at does. --- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:02:57 PM --- I don't see why I have to pay for you to keep breathing. I don't care how heartless it sounds, that's how it is. Someone in the middle of bumforget Tennessee shouldn't have to subsidize healthcare for Little Timmy who has a heart condition. I wouldn't expect other people to pay for my health insurance, so I don't see why I should be expected to do the same for other people. Is it selfish? Yes. Why am I not allowed to be selfish? I work and I earn money for MYSELF, not for the whole country or what the forget ever you guys think. I get taxed to keep the government running, not to make sure you get to live comfy. YOU work so YOU get to live comfy. --- End quote --- you're literally paying mere cents a month. quit crying. i probably pay the same amount as you or the next person. i don't want to pay for the road that leaves a white supremacist's house but i have to because everyone supports each other whether they like it or not you're allowed to be selfish all you want. you can murder your girlfriend and steal her car if you want to be really selfish. sadly, selfishness is bad for society. this is why we don't allow it. don't play the selfish argument- having to pay like one dollar extra a month is objectively better than having me pay $200 a month |
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