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[Real News] Obamacare Repeal Fails
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on July 28, 2017, 09:20:21 PM ---Wow, what a cowardly loving response. It's my problem, that's why I'm presenting my take on the matter. If you're going to crumble into your own mess of whining and bullstufftery every time somebody responds, don't even bother posting in the first place.
Yes, it's your problem - and that's where you should stop typing. It's cowardly because you don't like it? What, I need to WORK UP THE COURAGE TO COUGH UP $15K A YEAR FOR YOU? forget oooooooooooff
And it was completely and utterly disregarded being it's completely wrong. The state of healthcare is the way it is because of corporate intervention, not because m-muh Obamacare. ACA was a (Misguided, at best) step in the right direction and stuffheels like you whine because you have to pay taxes. Big whoop.
Bullstuff, already posted articles explaining this I'm not even gonna bother going over it again because you can't get your head out of your diabetic ass and see why people want this bullstuff repealed
You already ignored any points I brought up because, and this is my theory, you're emotionally incapable of coming to terms with the fact you were wrong about something. You should look into the whole ordeal sometime, considering how strongly you feel about this.
loving IRONYYYYYYYYYYY
If you weren't too stupid to read my whole post you would have caught the part where I cannot afford insulin without coverage. Stressing that part because you seem to keep missing it. I'm already paying bills, insurance on my car, groceries every week and the checkups for my family. I'm not some lazy do-nothing liberal that you wait night and forgetin day to destroy verbally in an argument, I'm an adult taxpayer whose been dealt a stuff hand and really doesn't need to lose healthcare just because I can't find a job that offers their own plan.
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Deal with your stuff hand instead of asking people like me to pick up after life for you then. It is not my problem you got dealt a stuff hand and ended up with diabetes.
Acerblock:
Ouch, wow, I mean that was brutal, Deus Ex. I would hope that more people nowadays wouldn't be adverse to helping out others, but damn.
You know, with a universal system, even with you contributing to the government taxes for medicare and medicaid, you would be still net saving from copays and deductibles.
ultimamax:
It seems like the whole concept of a state is predicated on the idea that humans can be capable of achieving incredible feats by all bearing a certain amount of responsibility individually. By paying taxes you are providing for the public good, and sometimes the public good doesn't affect you. (e.g. your taxes going to schools even though you're not in the public school system)
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:28:55 PM ---Deal with your stuff hand instead of asking people like me to pick up after life for you then. It is not my problem you got dealt a stuff hand and ended up with diabetes.
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I think the libertarian position of "forget you, got mine" cannot be said to be moral in anything but a pure meritocracy.
I'd like to reiterate that the US is one of the only developed countries without some form of single payer / universal health care and we have the highest healthcare expenditure per capita in the world. In a purely public healthcare system you'd likely be saving money by paying into it compared to how healthcare works currently, unless you're in a very high income bracket.
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:28:55 PM ---Deal with your stuff hand instead of asking people like me to pick up after life for you then. It is not my problem you got dealt a stuff hand and ended up with diabetes.
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Do you even earn a paycheck? I find it hard to believe that you're collecting money and believe that any small sum of your income is going towards my insurance.
Acerblock:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on July 28, 2017, 09:33:01 PM ---It seems like the whole concept of a state is predicated on the idea that humans can be capable of achieving incredible feats by all bearing a certain amount of responsibility individually. By paying taxes you are providing for the public good, and sometimes the public good doesn't affect you. (e.g. your taxes going to schools even though you're not in the public school system)
I think the libertarian position of "forget you, got mine" cannot be said to be moral in anything but a pure meritocracy.
I'd like to reiterate that the US is one of the only developed countries without some form of single payer / universal health care and we have the highest healthcare expenditure per capita in the world. In a purely public healthcare system you'd likely be saving money by paying into it compared to how healthcare works currently, unless you're in a very high income bracket.
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By the way dude, I have a random question. I once saw you say that you were a liberal or left-leaning in a thread, I forget which, but everything you've said is kinda... left-leaning. Where do you stand politically?