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| Karl Marx:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on July 28, 2017, 09:33:01 PM ---I think the libertarian position of "forget you, got mine" cannot be said to be moral in anything but a pure meritocracy. --- End quote --- starfishs like Deus Ex don't care about morality. As long as they have what they need, they could give a damn about contributing towards the society that sustains them. |
| IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Karl Marx on July 28, 2017, 09:37:04 PM ---starfishs like Deus Ex don't care about morality. As long as they have what they need, they could give a damn about cintributing towards the society that sustains them. --- End quote --- He's literally a politically-charged internet tough guy at this point, considering how much he's reminding everyone how little he cares for the people who would lose coverage under the AHCA. I wonder if this is all an act like master matthew's clownery a few weeks ago. |
| ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Acerblock on July 28, 2017, 09:35:32 PM ---By the way dude, I have a random question. I once saw you say that you were a liberal or left-leaning in a thread, I forget which, but everything you've said is kinda... left-leaning. Where do you stand politically? --- End quote --- I'm probably a communist but I haven't really read enough literature to justify that position. I guess that makes me a socdem. --- Quote from: Karl Marx on July 28, 2017, 09:37:04 PM ---starfishs like Deus Ex don't care about morality. As long as they have what they need, they could give a damn about cintributing towards the society that sustains them. --- End quote --- In theory I'm completely fine with some sort of ancapistan libertarian dreamscape existing, unless people born into that country could find themselves unable to escape it to somewhere with an actual government. I understand the want for complete autonomy or whatever but IMO if you're for public services/roads/etc then it's questionable that you wouldn't want healthcare to be a part of that as well. |
| Acerblock:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on July 28, 2017, 09:39:15 PM ---I'm probably a communist but I haven't really read enough literature to justify that position. I guess that makes me a socdem. In theory I'm completely fine with some sort of ancapistan libertarian dreamscape existing, unless people born into that country could find themselves unable to escape it to somewhere with an actual government lol --- End quote --- Yeah I'm a social democrat too. |
| IkeTheGeneric:
also again --- Quote from: Deus Ex on July 28, 2017, 09:28:55 PM ---... instead of asking people like me to pick up after life for you then. --- End quote --- You don't pay for my insurance. Even if you lived in my state, you probably wouldn't still be paying taxes that goes towards my insurance. That's not really how any of this works and since this is the core clause of your awful argument, it kinda just shuts the whole thing down. |
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