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Sweden has gender neutral schools.
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Shift Kitty:

--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 01, 2017, 04:12:17 PM ---It's grammatically correct but it sounds stupid as stuff when referring to someone who is clearly either a man or a woman since we have already have pronouns for those two things and there's no need to refer to them as "they" when you can obviously see they're a he or a she

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can you tell for this one?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/238914176066650114/342037984461324288/5LZgpUg.png
McZealot:
I decided to skip his video because I didn't want to give him the views and instead went over to the Vice doc which actually had production value. Holy stuff this is like an acid trip. I almost screamed several times
Deus Ex:

--- Quote from: Shift Kitty on August 01, 2017, 04:16:35 PM ---can you tell for this one?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/238914176066650114/342037984461324288/5LZgpUg.png

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Looks like a chick. If she asked me to refer to her as "they" I'd refuse, and if she clarified that she's really an extremely effeminate male I would concede and refer to him as such. Not really confusing and not that complicated if you ask me.
Shift Kitty:

--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 01, 2017, 04:21:51 PM ---Looks like a chick. If she asked me to refer to her as "they" I'd refuse, and if she clarified that she's really an extremely effeminate male I would concede and refer to him as such. Not really confusing and not that complicated if you ask me.

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Good answer.
McZealot:

--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 01, 2017, 04:21:51 PM ---If she asked me to refer to her as "they" I'd refuse

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then you're just a piece of stuff. there is nothing presumptive about 'they.' they' is not a gender and you are not accepting some kind of agenda by referring to a person by gender neutral words. you can believe them to be a brain-damaged mental patient for all I give a stuff and still call them 'they' because you shouldn't even care. if someone asks you not to call them by a certain pronoun and you proceed to do it, you're an starfish. there's no justification. you're not righteous for being a richard.


--- Quote from: Shift Kitty on August 01, 2017, 04:25:35 PM ---Good answer.

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no it's not. if someone asked me to call them by something crazy like 'xe' 'xat' or something I'd just refer to them as 'they' and by their name. but if she said that she didn't identify as either gender and requested gender neutral pronouns, he should just say 'they'. you're not accepting an agenda by using words we use every day. if you refer to them as 'she' when they are biologically male you could at least make the case that you are enforcing their delusion. but refusing to call them 'they'? that's ridiculous.
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