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Sweden has gender neutral schools.
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 01, 2017, 07:05:38 PM ---I'm supposed to respect the fact that he refuses to treat other people with basic dignity because it conflicts with his politics?
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Yes, you are. Sometimes people do things you don't think is right, and no matter what you say or do will ever, EVER change that. Either come to accept this, or continue wasting your breath.
Conan:
--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 01, 2017, 07:05:38 PM ---I'm supposed to respect the fact that he refuses to treat other people with basic dignity because it conflicts with his politics?
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just because they (abstract rigidly-conservative person) aren't tolerant of other people doesnt justify you not being tolerant of them
the world sucks and people that disagree with you will always exist. and nearly always they have their own justifications and reasons for it as well. you can't nullify someone's life experiences with pure rhetoric.
Drydess:
whoops thought this was politics thread for a sec
otto-san:
--- Quote from: Conan on August 01, 2017, 07:20:13 PM ---just because they (abstract rigidly-conservative person) aren't tolerant of other people doesnt justify you not being tolerant of them
the world sucks and people that disagree with you will always exist. and nearly always they have their own justifications and reasons for it as well. you can't nullify someone's life experiences with pure rhetoric.
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to be fair, consciously making a decision to create an environment that is inhospitable to someone because you disagree with their identity is a bit further up the chain of unpleasant than a simple disagreement, and more importantly, it's an action, not just a state of being
Conan:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 01, 2017, 08:01:32 PM ---to be fair, consciously making a decision to create an environment that is inhospitable to someone because you disagree with their identity is a bit further up the chain of unpleasant than a simple disagreement, and more importantly, it's an action, not just a state of being
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yes but the world is far from perfect and will always be. what's "right" will end up winning out in the long run - nothing you can do arguing to some unimportant people who can't affect policy nor do serious damage/change will really make your beliefs "right". these people likely got their beliefs from a lifetime of experiences and it would take years to break them, let alone replace them with your own views.
note i put "right" in quotes cause in this situation im defining it as what ends up sticking around decades to centuries after the fact. aka morality and kindness and "good" may not win out in the end