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| Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 02, 2017, 03:01:51 PM ---doesn't actually have anything to do with trans issues i don't think, all the kids still know what their assigned gender is (x), it's literally just to create a space where there's a vacuum of traditional gender roles to let kids develop independently of those expectations --- End quote --- You can do that without calling them whatever version of "they" Swedes like to use |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 02, 2017, 03:11:21 PM ---You can do that without calling them whatever version of "they" Swedes like to use --- End quote --- yeah, you can, tho it really doesn't make that much a difference. it's just language, the worst you're doing is teaching them to use an uncommon pronoun for a couple years. if people think it's weird after they get out, then oh well, experiment failed and they just learn to use common gendered pronouns. it's not going to drastically affect them one way or another, especially since it's only preschool. they aren't enforcing that their students be considered nonbinary, they're just referring to them by a new generic pronoun |
| Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 02, 2017, 03:13:36 PM ---yeah, you can, tho it really doesn't make that much a difference. it's just language, the worst you're doing is teaching them to use an uncommon pronoun for a couple years. if people think it's weird after they get out, then oh well, experiment failed and they just learn to use common gendered pronouns. it's not going to drastically affect them one way or another, especially since it's only preschool --- End quote --- I guess. I just think it's a slippery slope. It's this relatively harmless thing for now, but that might change later, when it's too late to do anything about it. |
| Kochieboy:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 02, 2017, 03:01:51 PM ---doesn't actually have anything to do with trans issues i don't think, all the kids still know what their assigned gender is (x), it's literally just to create a space where there's a vacuum of traditional gender roles to let kids develop independently of those expectations --- End quote --- I was mostly stating in general for the people who legitimately think it's okay to pressure transgenderism onto children. I know what's up in the story, but I know of other places putting much heavier pressure on the subject. |
| IkeTheGeneric:
Again stressing because Deus Ex is coming at this from the wrong way, the point of the school was to deliver gender neutral education, not to pressure kids into being gender neutral. There are some oddities in the journal but I dunno how much of it is lost in translation. The whole idea I think is to reform how education is delivered to the kids to avoid instilling any sort of "Gendered stereotypes" on the kids, forcibly shaping their world view or whatever. I don't know how much this is actually an issue, but take that as you will. |
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