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IkeTheGeneric:

--- Quote from: Verification on August 04, 2017, 03:16:53 PM ---if by industrialization you mean forcing people to work for below minimum wage maybe you should rephrase that
communism slows down industrialization if anything you loving loon because everyone either has to save up for 40 years to start manufacturing one product or buy stuff the government sells

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Misrepresenting an argument and then attacking that is worse than presenting a bad argument. You keep doing the same "If by X you actually mean Y" tagline and it's getting you nowhere.
Karl Marx:

--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on August 04, 2017, 03:14:50 PM ---So communism is a feudalism tier government structure

Got it.

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I mean, I guess Stalinism kind of is, but otherwise it's the most opposite of feudalism you could possible be.
--- Quote from: Verification on August 04, 2017, 03:16:53 PM ---if by industrialization you mean forcing people to work for below minimum wage maybe you should rephrase that

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Do you know what the industrial revolution is?
--- Quote from: Verification on August 04, 2017, 03:16:53 PM ---communism slows down industrialization if anything you loving loon because everyone either has to save up for 40 years to start manufacturing one product or buy stuff the government sells

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Not that I like the way Stalin went about it, but Stalin did manage to industrialize Russia and become the most powerful nation in the world in the shortest amount of time ever. Not that it matters, considering most countries have already industrialized by now.
Red Spy:
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Verification:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on August 04, 2017, 03:19:47 PM ---Misrepresenting an argument and then attacking that is worse than presenting a bad argument. You keep doing the same "If by X you actually mean Y" tagline and it's getting you nowhere.

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Im jokingly doing it then presenting the argument. forget off.


--- Quote from: Karl Marx on June 23, 1970, 03:52:24 PM ---.Do you know what the industrial revolution is?Not that I like the way Stalin went about it, but Stalin did manage to industrialize Russia and become the most powerful nation in the world in the shortest amount of time ever. Not that it matters, considering most countries have already industrialized by now.

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First marxism, full communism, now stalinism.. What next? Maoism?
Industrial revs. dont happen to every country. Only wealthy ones that are ahead of tech and can afford it.
Stalin did not do much and piggybacked off of the fact that he was in the arms race with murica and started going as much into technology and industrialism as he can. Only reason why.
Karl Marx:

--- Quote from: Verification on August 04, 2017, 03:24:53 PM ---Industrial revs. dont happen to every country. Only wealthy ones that are ahead of tech and can afford it.

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... Industrial revolutions are the events that make countries wealthy and ahead of tech. Even after America's industrial revolution, America was about as important as Zimbabwe on the global playing field until we started colonizing smaller countries.
--- Quote from: Verification on August 04, 2017, 03:24:53 PM ---Stalin did not do much and piggybacked off of the fact that he was in the arms race with murica and started going as much into technology and industrialism as he can. Only reason why.

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Huh? Stalin industrialized Russia far before the Arms race. Not to mention, he died as it was beginning. You really need to read over your history textbook.
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