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Google fires James Damore for memo on echochamber
Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on August 09, 2017, 01:44:31 AM ---the funniest thing here is that he's basically an even less successful version of tony
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I'm late to the party, but I think the difference between Tony and Kimon is that while they both invoke Poe's Law, I think Tony is just a ridiculously good satirist ironically pretending to be a handicap, while Kimon is just handicapped.
The problem I take with Kimon isn't that I disagree with him politically (which I should note, I do, to acknowledge my own bias) but rather that I have never seen Kimon concede defeat when he is wrong about something and will either continue stuffposting about Communism or completely sperg out and post memes to try to derail the topic.
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 02:01:57 AM ---I'd recommend reading this too
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I can't address the validity of his first two points since I haven't read the entire memo. But even if the conclusions of the memo are false, I don't think that's actually worth firing someone over. Being wrong shouldn't be worthy of dismissal unless it's malicious or otherwise violates the rules of civil discourse.
The third point in that response is something that, in my mind, warrants HR response - the whole idea that the memo was a deliberate attempt to belittle female Google staff members.
I don't, at least skimming the article, see the author implying that women are biologically unsuitable for working at Google. He makes claims about average differences in certain personality traits (some of which are probably false conclusions, but, again, I'd have to read more) based on small selections of literature, and then tries to extrapolate from there to explain the tech gap. Is that valid reasoning? I don't know. But it doesn't constitute a deliberate, targeted attack against his female colleagues like Zunger claims.
Also like, at least a paragraph of this guy's response to the memo is just him complaining about having to explain it to his friends. Controversy is not inherently bad.
GRIMLOCK_:
--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 02:12:40 AM ---At least you've fully committed to dropping all reason and taking the brute force approach. That's a step in the right direction.
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At least youre consistant in defending brute force and all, especially considering your two favorite communist dictators killed over 75 million people!
--- Quote from: ultimamax on August 09, 2017, 02:13:21 AM ---Has he done anything worth banning since his last ban?
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Yes, multiple instances
Karl Marx:
--- Quote from: Rally on August 09, 2017, 02:11:29 AM ---People have really tried to help you Kimon but you refuse to change. At some point they just have to give up and hope you get banned for the 100th time.
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I can discern whether or not somebody is trying to help me, or if they're just joining in so that they can fit in more. It's really sad to see kids like Unova lash out at people in order to fit in more, in the hopes that it would make them less of a target.
Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on August 09, 2017, 02:11:24 AM ---At least y'all aren't beating around the bush anymore. It feels like the last 6 pages were just people calling Kimon a handicap without really giving any reasons.
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literally everyone was giving reasons
what the forget are you on