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Google fires James Damore for memo on echochamber
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 09, 2017, 03:10:52 AM ---Shut up
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No YOU shut up
McZealot:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 09, 2017, 03:02:47 AM ---i guess it's not impossible, but you'd wanna actually provide scientific evidence of this instead of just saying women have inferior brain function for higher-level thinking tasks like programming. i definitely agree with the direction kimon was going, that the differences in traits/interests is much more greatly influenced by well-documented social influences rather than a natural inferiority. not just because i believe in gender equality, but because i legitimately don't believe that's the most viable scientific explanation.
edit note: i haven't read the paper, i'm just continuing the dialogue here. i don't know if this was the actual content so i don't want to come across as debating against what the memo said
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Except he didn't say "women are less intelligent", he said 'distinctions in biology MAY IN PART be responsible for the divide. I don't know if they are or not, I just despise people calling equating a scientific fact (that men and women are biologically different) with loveism. If he had said that he knew exactly what caused it and was wrong I would understand being disgusted (because that'd actually be loveist if he claimed women were inferior when they weren't) but he didn't claim anything, he just proposed a scientific possibility
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on August 09, 2017, 03:14:41 AM ---No YOU shut up
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No u!1!!!1!
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I was in the middle of something and I couldn't type a full reply but what I really wanted to say in response was it's not a dumb comment. The current politics of the left involve echo chambers and shouting people who disagree w/ them back into silence, after removing them from social media and stripping them of their livelihoods. This has happened time and time again to many people who might not even be on the right, but are simply to the right of the far left, which has wrestled control from the more sane people to continue pushing their identity politics. Seventh here doesn't have to be a part of this strain of liberalism was what I was saying. It doesn't need him to sustain itself.
otto-san:
--- Quote from: McZealot on August 09, 2017, 03:32:53 AM ---Except he didn't say "women are less intelligent", he said 'distinctions in biology MAY IN PART be responsible for the divide. I don't know if they are or not, I just despise people calling equating a scientific fact (that men and women are biologically different) with loveism. If he had said that he knew exactly what caused it and was wrong I would understand being disgusted (because that'd actually be loveist if he claimed women were inferior when they weren't) but he didn't claim anything, he just proposed a scientific possibility
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right, that's why i added the disclaimer there. i was under the impression you were playing devil's advocate to the idea that women could legitimately be biologically disadvantaged for tech jobs, if that wasn't the case then that's my bad
Verification:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 09, 2017, 03:35:44 AM ---right, that's why i added the disclaimer there. i was under the impression you were playing devil's advocate to the idea that women could legitimately be biologically disadvantaged for tech jobs, if that wasn't the case then that's my bad
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if anyone believes this in real life i would just turn around and walk away. chances are it's either 1. a 4chan friendzoned guy 2. a really old man from the 1940's or something.