Google fires James Damore for memo on echochamber

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Tactical Nuke:

--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 10:34:18 PM ---He made the point that they might not be interested in jobs as they are currently laid out, which is to say, pandering to the strengths of what he perceives to be male-specific thought patterns. Rather than suggest a reworking of job structures to allow a broader range of thought, effectively becoming more efficient, he simply comes to the conclusion that there are naturally going to be less women in certain positions. I have outlined this previously.

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Except he absolutely did suggest a reworking of job structures and you're bullstuffting again.

--- Quote ---Non-discriminatory ways to reduce the gender gap

* We can make software engineering more people-oriented with pair programming.
* Allow those exhibiting cooperative behavior to thrive.
* Make tech and leadership less stressful.
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Karl Marx:

--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 09, 2017, 11:10:55 PM ---Except he absolutely did suggest a reworking of job structures and you're bullstuffting again.

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The fact that he makes a point of saying "this can only be so effective" only solidifies the fact that this memo came off as hostile to those who did not have a specific set of skills/a specific manner of thinking more than it did a genuine effort to encourage reform. This is why he was fired.

Notice also that he only suggests a "Reduction" of the gender gap, and not the elimination of it?

beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 10:34:18 PM ---If it's that easy, why aren't you running your own multinational business?

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You don't need to run a multinational business to survive dumbass

--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 10:34:18 PM ---Aren't you a tar-shoveling lackey?

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Aren't you a minimum wage working parasite with no skills to warrant any sort of raise? You realize that I make well over three times the amount of money you do being a 'tar-shoveling lackey' right?

--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 10:34:18 PM ---Why haven't you employed yourself yet?

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Don't need to.

--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 10:34:18 PM ---The people want what's best for themselves. When the people are allowed to work towards the interests of the people, unimpeded by a a layer of corporate-fueled bureaucracy, they are working towards their own interests.

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And 'the people', those being the majority of people who actually work realize that capitalism is in the best interests of the people, not the government have one big monopoly on everything.

Tactical Nuke:

--- Quote from: Karl Marx on August 09, 2017, 11:13:35 PM ---
The fact that he makes a point of saying "this can only be so effective" only solidifies the fact that this memo came off as hostile to those who did not have a specific set of skills/a specific manner of thinking more than it did a genuine effort to encourage reform. This is why he was fired.

Notice also that he only suggests a "Reduction" of the gender gap, and not the elimination of it?

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he's saying "don't trick people into applying for and working jobs they won't like by hyping it up with feminist bullstuff", not "every single girl working in the classes is completely unfit for not only Google but for tech in general"

also waaaah boohoo there's an imbalance between men and women in all fields
get the forget over it
if people actually wanted 50-50 representation in jobs, they'd advocate for 50-50 representation in sewage plants and plumbing before even touching Google

ultimamax:

--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 09, 2017, 03:33:57 AM ---I was in the middle of something and I couldn't type a full reply but what I really wanted to say in response was it's not a dumb comment. The current politics of the left involve echo chambers and shouting people who disagree w/ them back into silence, after removing them from social media and stripping them of their livelihoods. This has happened time and time again to many people who might not even be on the right, but are simply to the right of the far left, which has wrestled control from the more sane people to continue pushing their identity politics. Seventh here doesn't have to be a part of this strain of liberalism was what I was saying. It doesn't need him to sustain itself.

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Your comment just seemed sort of like a stretch. Of course he didn't get to vote in it, he has nothing to do with Google, it's not because of some profound problem with the left. I get what you were going for.

Would like to note Google is already undergoing a DOJ investigation for underpaying / underrepresenting women and minorities even worse than what one might expect of the tech industry.

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