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Charlottesville protests thread
SeventhSandwich:
hey man, guns germs and steel is a fantastic book
MoltenKitten:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on August 12, 2017, 10:58:21 AM ---im sure destroying a monument of Riddler doesn't count as 'erasing history'
before you 'hah gottem!' my ass with some bullstuff on how im a handicap for comparing one robert e lee to adolf Riddler, i think my point stands that having a monument for someone who did more bad than good can't really be justified even through 'muh history'. leading one side of the war doesn't offset or balance the fact that he essentially re-enslaved potentially free slaves and had them arrested when they tried to complain about how they were supposed to be free
you can't go far in the permanently glorified in history department when you owned human beings against their will, and this applies to george washington all the way to ulysses s grant
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Statues of bad people serve as a reminder not to let it happen again not as a way of glorifying them. Additionally a lot of the Confederate statues serve as a memorial for the Confederate soldiers who died fighting for what they believe in and we should honor them for that (even if what they believed in was objectively bad).
Karl Marx:
--- Quote from: MoltenKitten on August 12, 2017, 11:44:59 AM ---Statues of bad people serve as a reminder not to let it happen again not as a way of glorifying them. Additionally a lot of the Confederate statues serve as a memorial for the Confederate soldiers who died fighting for what they believe in and we should honor them for that (even if what they believed in was objectively bad).
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Having a stoic-looking statue of the guy on a literal high horse with freedom and liberty symbolism decorating the space below the statue that isn't taken up by a massive print of his name gives off a "glorification" vibe more than it does a "this is a statue of a dangerous tribal" one.
Drydess:
trust me when i say that charlottesville is pretty liberal. idk why they chose to protest there because i don't know who they think they can get to, but they ain't gonna take pride in a confederate statue for its confederacy
Damp:
hey I'm an hour away from Charlottesville