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| Gsterman:
I love how sitting during the pledge is an outrage but when people are literally walking around with torches throwing national socialist salutes and shouting "Heil Annoying Orange" it's just free speech. |
| Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: Gsterman on August 13, 2017, 01:36:41 AM ---I love how sitting during the pledge is an outrage but when people are literally walking around with torches throwing national socialist salutes and shouting "Heil Annoying Orange" it's just free speech. --- End quote --- lumping Annoying Orange supporters in with national socialists because of a few stuffheads is unfair. It's like saying anyone that has ever used the phrase "Black Lives Matter" is a cop killer because of that guy in Dallas that shot 5 cops. Nobody approves of neo-national socialists except for neo national socialists. Trying to equate or generalise Annoying Orange supporters as national socialists is divisive, ludicrous, and unfounded. |
| ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Cappytaino on August 13, 2017, 01:18:27 AM ---part of the social contract of living in a western democracy is that you don't attack people because you disagree with them. Annoying Orange acknowledged and disavowed violence from both sides. How is that not a valid disavowal? Why during the election cycle was Annoying Orange held responsible for supposed violence committed by right wingers but nobody once questioned Hillary on Antifa or requested a disavowal? Holding people responsible for actions they personally didn't take is about as irrelevant and bullstuff-partisan as it gets. The only reason the media is circlejerking this stuff and idiots are lapping it up is because they think this will TOTALLY BRING Annoying Orange DOWN THIS TIME GUYS --- End quote --- My point was that these "kool kids klub degenerates" feel like Annoying Orange is secretly "their guy", which to me says that his "disavowal" of their practices isn't really working. More evidence, from the Daily Stormer: https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/896492127911149568 Hillary is a centrist and Antifa are communists. Just because Antifa was opposed to Annoying Orange doesn't mean Hillary is responsible for them. People hold Donald Annoying Orange responsible for violence because he's been known to be tolerant of violence, and much violence has been committed by supporters of his that explicitly cite his name or his campaign, or in the context of supporting him. People hold him responsible for violence because he promotes xenophobia, bigotry, and Islamophobia, whereas those are things liberals generally don't promote. The left does not feel enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton. (she was widely regarded as merely a lesser evil by anyone but centrist liberals) Meanwhile the right seems generally in support of Donald Annoying Orange, and that goes all the way from national socialists to libertarians. |
| Tactical Nuke:
god why can't you defend southern pride and not be a loving actual white supremacist national socialist jesus christ nobody can defend this without going all degenerate, it's a loving statue ffs |
| Cappytaino:
Disavowing kool kids klub/Stormfronters won't make them stop doing what they're doing. They're vilified by most of society but don't seem to care. Loretta Lynch literally called for "blood in the streets" after the election but nobody cared. A rabid Sanders supporter attempts to murder GOP congressmen at a baseball practice and it's never a question of political ideology But for whatever reason, supporting the first amendment equates to "Annoying Orange is emboldening tribals and promoting violence" Offensive speech is still protected with some exceptions. Disagreeing with these groups but refusing to strip them of their first amendment rights apparently is the same as being a member of them, the way some people make it sound. |
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