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Charlottesville protests thread
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 14, 2017, 04:11:44 PM ---They shouldn't be allowed to have a ToS that would violate the first amendment
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As it stands, a ToS can't violate your first amendment unless they actively try to, which I can guarantee you isn't something that happens.
It's more anti-consumer to negate the consequences of violating the ToS for a very specific people than it is to let groups dictate what their terms are, anyways.
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 14, 2017, 04:12:07 PM ---you are actively killing your business by booting people off the platform that you disagree with, just look at twitter
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Discord gets their business from a specific subset of users, considering their startup status.
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on August 14, 2017, 04:13:43 PM ---i think they'll get by without the neo-national socialist support lol
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Except not everyone who is turned off by them doing this is a neo-national socialist. You guys really need to stop thinking like that, it's not a very sensible position.
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--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on August 14, 2017, 04:16:00 PM ---As it stands, a ToS can't violate your first amendment unless they actively try to, which I can guarantee you isn't something that happens.
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Oh boy
otto-san:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 14, 2017, 04:11:44 PM ---They shouldn't be allowed to have a ToS that would violate the first amendment
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while i agree in some respects, and i kinda chuckle at the idea of the free market always sorting these things out, i can't say i would support any attempts to actually legislate that. businesses aren't technically the government. there'd be no legal precedent for that kind of policy, and the idea of that precedent existing isn't too exciting. applying constitutional restrictions on private individuals (cus precedent effectively states that businesses are people) logistically makes no sense, and is also very immediately recognizable as a terrible idea. if you've ever been worried about having legal repercussions for using hateful language, that would enable it
Remurr:
--- Quote from: Electrk. on August 14, 2017, 04:09:03 PM ---well you're objectively wrong then
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a patriot is someone who is proud of their country and is willing to defend it if necessary. nationalism is patriotism that has been perverted with aggression and superiority towards other countries or people. they are hateful and preach superiority over independence. so no, i don't believe i'm wrong, but i'm not going to think that warmongering is what this country stands for and you won't convince me otherwise.
beachbum111111:
You can't go into googles headquarters and start shouting "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW". They have every legal right to kick you out. Same goes for websites. You aren't in a public place you are on a website on the internet owned by a private corporation. The problem is that there aren't enough competing companys with youtube or discord or whatever so when someone does it kicked off one of these sites it feels like the are silencing your speech completely because of their massive reach and because you really have nowhere else to go.