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| Electrk.:
--- Quote from: Remurr on August 14, 2017, 04:27:13 PM ---look i understand you consider extremists as equals with regular followers, but i don't and dictionary definitions aren't convincing after seeing them in action. --- End quote --- I don't see them as equals; my point is that nationalists are patriots, which is objectively true it doesn't matter whether you like them or not, they're still patriots, just taken to an extreme |
| Remurr:
--- Quote from: Electrk. on August 14, 2017, 04:28:56 PM ---I don't see them as equals; my point is that nationalists are patriots, which is objectively true it doesn't matter whether you like them or not, they're still patriots, just taken to an extreme --- End quote --- i mean, technically yeah you're right. i suppose i don't see them as true patriots then lol |
| IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 14, 2017, 04:25:49 PM ---Jesus forget are you guys intentionally missing my point? --- End quote --- Your idea of what the first amendment should cover would be way more disastrous than you think. It would set nasty anti-consumer precedents and it would not necessarily protect people from violation of service regardless, since companies still reserve the right to ban you from their service for pretty much any reason. --- Quote from: Verification on August 14, 2017, 04:27:32 PM ---i cant see what better alternative to discord will pop up, the program that alone punched skype, teamspeak and mumble in the gut and caused a mass migration and even an exodus of people who dont even use IRC programs to it --- End quote --- It's hard to imagine what an alternative would be when there isn't one; if Discord is truly censoring opinions to further an agenda, nut up and boycott it or shut up about it. That's all that needs to be said, really. --- Quote from: Remurr on August 14, 2017, 04:32:34 PM ---i mean, technically yeah you're right. i suppose i don't see them as true patriots then lol --- End quote --- What you could say is that nationalists don't act within the best interests in their country, but rather the best interests for themselves, effectively making the patriotism moot. |
| Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: Maxwell. on August 14, 2017, 04:28:48 PM ---otto sans point was that businesses aren't the government and that applying government based restrictions on privately owned businesses and the likes is a terrible idea. ike, me and remurr are also telling you the exact same thing --- End quote --- --- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on August 14, 2017, 04:33:05 PM ---Your idea of what the first amendment should cover would be way more disastrous than you think. It would set nasty anti-consumer precedents and it would not necessarily protect people from violation of service regardless, since companies still reserve the right to ban you from their service for pretty much any reason. --- End quote --- Fair point but it's still bullstuff as far as I'm concerned |
| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on August 14, 2017, 04:19:42 PM ---You can't go into googles headquarters and start shouting "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW". They have every legal right to kick you out. Same goes for websites. You aren't in a public place you are on a website on the internet owned by a private corporation. The problem is that there aren't enough competing companys with youtube or discord or whatever so when someone does it kicked off one of these sites it feels like the are silencing your speech completely because of their massive reach and because you really have nowhere else to go. --- End quote --- Pageloss |
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