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| Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on August 15, 2017, 05:30:26 AM ---Guys your pulling the same stuff lefties do when talking about terror attacks. "if we deport the muslims/stop bringing them in it's only going to make them angrier/stronger and we don't want that :C". --- End quote --- No not really? That's not the same as beating up a bunch of neo-national socialists/white nationalists or doing something like tearing down a statue illegally because you disagree with the ideology of that person. In the case of people acting in a nonviolent matter like neo-national socialists and white nationalists protesting or stating their views in public, the best and most successful course of action is allowing them to speak, then debating them with better points. That's not the same as the argument that deporting and curtailing muslim immigration feeds into radical Islam. Beyond that, the argument you speak of is a form of capitulation, and I feel like we're not trying to bend the knee to neo-national socialists at all? I'm not thinking about the feelings of these idiots when I say we shouldn't be doing things that legitimize their cause. It's moreso trying to make sure both sides are held accountable for bullstuff at all times. |
| otto-san:
engaging in dialogue with radicals legitimizes their rhetoric and gives them a public platform to spread their radical ideas. fighting them obvs just deepens their sense of detachment from the rest of society and deepens their attachment to their ideology. stigma is probs the most effective way that a society would deal with ideas that are seen as fundamentally at odds with mainstream culture, and charlottesville seems to be turning out as a major landmark in that regard. i don't think i know of any republicans that condone what went down there, and i don't think most people would feel comfortable being associated with them either the convenient thing here is that racism and bigotry are already p universally stigmatized in our society, people just never think they're the tribals (i forget the term for this psychological phenomenon) |
| Rally:
BLOOD AND SOIL |
| Nonnel:
loving tiki torches |
| Red Spy:
are they too sophisticated for burning sticks |
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