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Charlottesville protests thread
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: otto-san on August 15, 2017, 06:19:16 AM ---engaging in dialogue with radicals legitimizes their rhetoric and gives them a public platform to spread their radical ideas
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Okay but if you engage them and make people see that they are not only radical but also idiots, that defuses the problem pretty effectively
Corderlain:
Because an ideological quarantine really turned people off from eating ass. The more you refuse to talk about something the more it will happen.
otto-san:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on August 15, 2017, 08:19:43 AM ---Okay but if you engage them and make people see that they are not only radical but also idiots, that defuses the problem pretty effectively
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if you could do that in a way that somehow flawlessly convinces everyone, sure. what happens in practice though is that, when you give an ideology a platform in public policy, people entertain the ideas and become accustomed to them. people don't go whole hog on promoting radical ideas from the start because they aren't oblivious to mainstream politics. by engaging them in public debate, you're giving them the tools to slowly shift the overton window in their favor.
besides, people are already numb to the contention that ideas can be immoral. calling someone tribal isn't incredibly compelling when juxtaposed with pretty-sounding white supremacist ideology, even if it's true
kongo:
instead of tearing down statues and memorials cant these idiot rioters just put blue tarps over them
Conan:
--- Quote from: kongo on August 15, 2017, 03:08:29 PM ---instead of tearing down statues and memorials cant these idiot rioters just put blue tarps over them
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"whats under the tarp mommy"
"dont look, its a tribal slaveowning murderer, hes real big and scary"