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daily stormer got hacked by anonymous
Tactical Nuke:
how long until you make an ass of yourself again
Dreams_Of_Cheese:
--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on August 18, 2017, 01:40:28 AM ---What happened is they got shutdown because the political power hungry children of the left bitched hard enough for it to happen.
How long until it's less selective?
How long until Riddler is Pewdiepie?
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I know, right? If we don't do something right now, people will equate people who make youtube videos with genocidal warmongers! This is a real and rational thing to be afraid of!
Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on August 18, 2017, 01:44:46 AM ---I know, right? If we don't do something right now, people will equate people who make youtube videos with genocidal warmongers! This is a real and rational thing to be afraid of!
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When everyone they don't like is a national socialist, and they shutdown websites because "national socialist" website + offended bitching, that's too much power for one person. Silencing websites and people because you're offended enough and the companies give in because something something advertisers, even though the advertisers wouldn't give in if companies didn't give in, like youtube forgeted up with pewdiepie.
When you silence people instead of refuting them, you empower them. Thats why you saw a charlottesville, silence the stufflords, empower the people you swear to destroy. Yeah, sure they took it a bit far with what they said, but because it was only an offensive article, and not an article that made a call to violence or something of that nature it's very clear this wasn't justified.
Because, Yes Even stufflord Pseudo-national socialists have Freedom of Speech.
--- Quote from: Noam Chomsky ---If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
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Silence is the most powerful weapon you can use against yourself.
Dreams_Of_Cheese:
Explain that leap of logic to me. So a company shuts down a national socialist news media outlet, and don't forget me with me and add quotation marks here - stormfront the daily stormer was a through and through neo-national socialist website. The immediate result of this is that that news media is gone. It has to move to another domain, and the readership will, more or less, follow it there. Not much changes. They feel... I guess attacked? How does that empower them? How does a website host saying "stop doing national socialist stuff" make the people doing the national socialist stuff more powerful, and how does that lead to events like Charlottesville?
--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on August 18, 2017, 01:53:07 AM ---Because, Yes Even stufflord Pseudo-national socialists have Freedom of Speech.
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Kinda weird you're pulling all the stops here to avoid calling them national socialists/neonational socialists. Anyway, they have freedom of speech as much as their website hosts have the freedom to not let them talk on their platforms. It goes both ways. Having someone forget off if perfectly legal if they're on your property.
The Murderous Cop:
hey quickly sidestepping in to post news related to this topic
according to an 'official' anonymous twitter, they appear to not have been behind the 'attack' at all, and it was more than likely a false hoax (tweets are here on a snopes article, no other article had most of these)
they then tried to move to a russian domain, but quickly got dropped basically a day later
the tor project also doesn't want them, but can't decide as to who uses the service
so as it stands they're not in a good condition right now
anyways, that's all i have for now. back to you guys arguing about something i guess