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Master Matthew²:

--- Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on August 18, 2017, 03:00:35 AM ---Sure. national socialist ideology is harmful because it explicitly calls for violence against others. It motivates people to harm each other. But whatever, if that doesn't do it for you, I don't think there's much I can do to convince you to think that following and preaching an ideology with "kill people different from you" on the agenda is harmful.

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Okay, but the daily stormer isn't the national socialist Ideology, they're a """news""" website that is the embodiment of everything that /pol/ is, but slightly cleaned up and it also tones down the "SUPER CONSPIRACY THEORY, RED SEPTEMBER DRAGON" asinine bullstuff

--- Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on August 18, 2017, 03:00:35 AM ---Who is "they?" What have they "done before?" Since when was the term "tribal" destroyed?

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They are the feelings police who twist reality to be biased in their favour.
Cry wolf meaning they will cry tribal over forgetin' anything, did you miss 2016, and the whole "All white people are tribal" and other nonsense bullstuff involving the misuse and abuse of a once powerful word to the point that it now means nothing?

--- Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on August 18, 2017, 03:00:35 AM ---Eventually they'll find a webhost who cares more about money than integrity who'll host them.

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It's not that they were silenced, but rather that to the public it appeared as though this was an attempt to silence them on ideological grounds. It's not always a matter of whats true as much as it is a matter of what the perspective is to the outsider, and the outsider will not see as much as someone who lives and breathes in this stuff, and it is the outsider who is more likely to turn, and considering it is the outsider who is common in today's society for these situations in particular, this action should not be taken lightly.
SteveJenkins:

--- Quote from: The Murderous Cop on August 18, 2017, 02:18:24 AM ---the tor project also doesn't want them

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I mean I hate neo national socialist's / white nationalists / the alt right (what the forget are we referring to them collectively as?) but this is hilariously hypocritical for a service that harbours horrible stuff


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perfect
Dreams_Of_Cheese:

--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on August 18, 2017, 03:10:36 AM ---They are the feelings police who twist reality to be biased in their favour.
Cry wolf meaning they will cry tribal over forgetin' anything, did you miss 2016, and the whole "All white people are tribal" and other nonsense bullstuff involving the misuse and abuse of a once powerful word to the point that it now means nothing?

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Who are you even talking about? Why are you answering me in hypothetical groups? And despite what you're saying, the term tribal still holds weight. People can still be tribal. Misuse of the word did not expunge it from dictionaries everywhere. It still exists. It still is used correctly, although not always. Why do you bring this up anyway? You're trying to say that the same is going to happen to the word national socialist? There's just not a basis for that. Sorry.


--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on August 18, 2017, 03:10:36 AM ---It's not that they were silenced, but rather that to the public it appeared as though this was an attempt to silence them on ideological grounds. It's not always a matter of whats true as much as it is a matter of what the perspective is to the outsider, and the outsider will not see as much as someone who lives and breathes in this stuff, and it is the outsider who is more likely to turn, and considering it is the outsider who is common in today's society for these situations in particular, this action should not be taken lightly.

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Who are these hypothetical outsiders who have never heard of national socialists? Who is going to see a national socialist website being shut down and say "wow, they're hiding secrets from me! i should become a national socialist!" These outsiders are more common? Who are they and why is that happening? loving substantiate.

And for god's sake stop with the loving word soup. "It's not always a matter of whats true as much as it is a matter of what the perspective is to the outsider, and the outsider will not see as much as someone who lives and breathes in this stuff, and it is the outsider who is more likely to turn, and considering it is the outsider who is common in today's society for these situations in particular, this action should not be taken lightly," as one loving sentence? This is nearly unreadable.
beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: SteveJenkins on August 18, 2017, 03:10:53 AM ---perfect

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Dreams_Of_Cheese:
For the record, I'm not asking these questions out of argumentative style. I have actually no idea what you're talking about. I want concise information to work with, and telling me to blame "the feelings police" doesn't tell me anything.
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