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| Shift Kitty:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 16, 2017, 02:36:41 AM ---oh ok so I guess you'd be okay if we bulldozed Auschwitz and the Japanese internment camps because surely that stuff happening is still told in books so no one in the world believes driving a car through those sites changes that amirite --- End quote --- go right ahead also lol @ honoring the fallen "hey we had some very important people in our times. this guy, for instance, was quite an expert in those times where we were killing each other in our own land. it's a shame he had to go" |
| Nonnel:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 16, 2017, 02:36:41 AM ---oh ok so I guess you'd be okay if we bulldozed Auschwitz and the Japanese internment camps because surely that stuff happening is still told in books so no one in the world believes driving a car through those sites changes that amirite --- End quote --- Those are memorials respecting the victims of the practices. If these were memorials for slaves; Harriet Tubman, Fredrick Douglass, etc.; everyone would be complaining about removal. These statues aren't respecting the victims, they're commemorating the people who allowed slavery to stay in place for so long, and who fought to make it the law of the land. It's absolutely ridiculous and it's no wonder these cities wouldn't want these giant statues sitting out in the open because it's going to make people identify the city with the values of that person. That's why there is a push to move them out of the public eye and into storage or museums where they can be put into proper context. |
| LeisureSuit912:
--- Quote from: Bisjac on August 16, 2017, 04:26:17 PM ---we should just remove everything that stuffty people in the past have done. like buddhist statues, and ancient pyramids because they represent bullstuff religions. and just remove longform history and replace it with footnote insults of past people. cultural marxism is awesome. we should force acceptance so hard, that we will go full circle and not accept people. --- End quote --- "Cultural marxism" lol are you kidding me |
| Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: Shift Kitty on August 16, 2017, 04:38:38 PM ---also lol @ honoring the fallen --- End quote --- haha ikr respecting your enemies I mean who does that lol --- Quote from: Nonnel on August 16, 2017, 04:57:07 PM ---Those are memorials respecting the victims of the practices. If these were memorials for slaves; Harriet Tubman, Fredrick Douglass, etc.; everyone would be complaining about removal. --- End quote --- so how is a memorial for fallen soldiers not respecting the victims of a civil war? --- Quote from: Nonnel on August 16, 2017, 04:57:07 PM ---These statues aren't respecting the victims, they're commemorating the people who allowed slavery to stay in place for so long, and who fought to make it the law of the land. It's absolutely ridiculous and it's no wonder these cities wouldn't want these giant statues sitting out in the open because it's going to make people identify the city with the values of that person. That's why there is a push to move them out of the public eye and into storage or museums where they can be put into proper context. --- End quote --- only 6% of the south owned slaves at the time of the civil war so saying they all fought for slavery is painting way too broad of a stroke on the people who were killed maybe they fought because all the people they knew were fighting too and they couldn't bring themselves to kill their fathers and brothers and friends? |
| King Tøny:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on August 16, 2017, 04:57:07 PM ---These statues aren't respecting the victims, they're commemorating the people who allowed slavery to stay in place for so long, and who fought to make it the law of the land. --- End quote --- The confederates died for this country just like unions did. The average confederate soldier did not own slaves. The confederates died for this country for what they believed was right. There is no good/bad here. Each side did what they felt was right to them. Besides the union didn't care about slavery, they just knew it would forget businesses over. lol |
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