Several Questions: Is "no loopholes" a good rule?

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Kringleberg:

--- Quote from: torin² on September 03, 2017, 11:34:08 PM ---electro swing

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y'know i agree with you lol ha

torin²:

--- Quote from: PhantOS on September 03, 2017, 11:45:16 PM ---ok i found the genre that nobody would miss if removed

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electro swing

McZealot:

--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on September 04, 2017, 01:35:26 AM ---Horror is a stuff genre. The good movies in the 'horror genre' can be better classified as drama, and the ones that are just flatly classified as 'horror' tend to be jump-scare exorcist rip-off nonsense.

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Uh... I don't think Sinister or The Shining--or many other great scary films--can really be classified as drama since they're literally terrifying. Jump scares aren't inherently bad unless they're abused. 'Hush' from Doctor Who (the Weeping Angels episode) is often called the greatest episode ever despite relying entirely on jump-scares for the spooks. I watch a lot of horror films and while it's true that most are terrible, some are great. There was a short from Southbound (a good horror film) that was genuinely terrifying. Basically, the main character hits a girl with his car and is driving frantically trying to save her under the order of a weird 9/11 operator as she chokes up blood and struggles to breath. He rushes her to an ER room but find it completely empty before he's ordered to preform the surgery himself by a 9/11 operator. They manipulate him into killing the girl and begin to laugh at him hysterically before letting him go. That entire story has no monsters, jumpscares, or any disgusting gore. It was literally just terrifying on a psychological basis because I was picturing myself in that situation and beginning to panic. The *unknown* factor of a horror feature is what's truly the scariest--it's rarely very scary to watch for the second time. What sticks with you is how horrifying the entire situation was and how everything he did--despite being the right thing to do--ended badly for him. It's also scary to picture these weird devil-like figures manipulating humans into killing one another for fun. It wasn't drama--I wasn't just tense. I was actually nervous and felt like I should pause the film. At some points I felt my heart beating really fast and got genuinely afraid. I love that feeling--it's so rare when a film can actually scare me (without jumpscares) that when it does it's really exciting.

Drama focuses on characters emotions and dialogue with one another. While that's certainly important to horror, the greatest factor is how the characters respond to the environment around them and the situations they are in. In horror, the characters should be relatively replaceable. The situation and environment is the star, while with drama, it's the opposite.

JumboMuffin:

--- Quote from: Nonnel on September 04, 2017, 02:48:36 AM ---you fools say comedy but forget about the naked gun series

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thank you for reminding me of these films

Doctor Disco:
Personally haven't found an interesting romance-centric movie that didn't double as a comedy or other.

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