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(somewhat) major refugee crCIA in myanmar after acts of buddhist terrorism
PhantOS:
i said soldiers who are christian. that could be in any country. either way you're arguing about semantics
plad101:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on September 03, 2017, 03:47:35 PM ---i said soldiers who are christian. that could be in any country
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My point still stands, it can be applied to any country when deploying religious troops.
Also, you can be absolved of your sins in Christianity, even if you murder a person.
Ipquarx:
--- Quote from: plad101 on September 03, 2017, 03:50:34 PM ---My point still stands, it can be applied to any country when deploying religious troops.
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your point made no sense, just read this again:
--- Quote from: plad101 on September 03, 2017, 03:29:53 PM ---the U.S. Military corrupt(s) people into thinking that they ARE working for God and that the commandments are applicable to them
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you are not only saying this is true and factual, which is a HUGE claim, but that it applies for literally every single military on the entire planet. Which is an even more massive claim.
The point still stands, by your own admission. Even if you break one of the fundamental teachings of a given religion, you can most definitely still be considered a part of the congregation. There are even processes by which to be absolved of your sin-equivalents in Buddhism like in Christianity, it's just a different process.
Khaz:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on September 03, 2017, 03:27:13 PM ---khaz the 6th commandment is 'thou shalt not kill.' i guess soldiers who practice christianity aren't really christian
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there are debates on whether or not the 6th commandment is translated to "kill" or "murder" which in only certain circumstances are they synonymous.
I guess the same could be said for the first Precept, but it is generally taught as no violence at all and "there are other ways to resolve conflict than the death of others" sort of thing, yknow? That being said, Buddha's teachings are probably the epitome of the term "nonviolence" and are very solemnly upheld. Like killing is the utmost last thing a Buddhist would need to resort to and even then it's viewed as in poor taste. It's almost disrespectful to refer to oneself as "Buddhist" and you've killed, though this is "repent-able" through self guidance and spiritual mending and of course through good deeds to others around you as well.
--- Quote from: Ipquarx on September 03, 2017, 03:30:54 PM ---and everybody who is forced to kill an attacker in self defense... also not a christian
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to be fair there are ways to disable an attacker without killing them. that entirely depends on the situation though. A "true" Buddhist who follows teachings and is one with self would most likely do everything in his power to not seriously harm the attacker and if it comes to it, die with dignity and allow themselves to be reborn as a better person because that's what the universe has planned for them.
--- Quote from: Ipquarx on September 03, 2017, 03:54:45 PM ---Even if you break one of the fundamental teachings of a given religion, you can most definitely still be considered a part of the congregation. There are even processes by which to be absolved of your sin-equivalents in Buddhism like in Christianity, it's just a different process.
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This is agreeable.
I've drank. I've smoked weed. I've lied and I've gossiped, and I've killed living organisms. That's breaking 4 of the five core teachings, but the whole point of Buddhism is to better yourself and your community as a whole with these teachings as a foundation. 3 of these teachings are kind of flexible based on the sect of Buddhism you follow, but the other 2, loveual misconduct and killing are kind of universally strict. I still refer to myself as Buddhist because I am actively trying everyday to better myself spiritually, physically, and mentally, while also trying to better those who are in my community. With that being said, core teachings of a religion/philosophy are always disputed territory as everyone has different morals and environments that influence them.
PhantOS:
suddenly khaz supports terrorists. he even changed his profile picture to show his support