Las Vegas Police Investigating Shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Foxscotch]

maybe it's got less to do with gun control and more to do with americans not caring about mental health

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[Tactical Nuke]

I think a gun might have been involved in each of them?

okay you get there I didn't think of that lol

[Darryl McKoy]

okay you get there I didn't think of that lol

gottem 

[Nonnel]

< it works on a tiny island in the middle of boondocks, pacific
< it'll work in the biggest gun manufacturing country in the world

This is literally how the liberal brain operates

course you moved to monono when i'd already said japan, which has 127 million people, roughly 1/3 of the US population, and had 1/5600 the amount of gun related deaths as the US had in 2014.

because people are too busy appeasing big company boss man they dont have the time to experience the firepower of a .30-06

makes sense to me

[otto-san]

let's play a game here

it's called "spot the pattern"

(spoiler alert: there is no pattern)

it's kinda hard to prove causation here because a lot of these places with strong gun laws happen to also be more heavily and densely populated. more people to become shooters and more people to become victims. also you get all the inconveniences of more urban life that end up spawning criminal activity. i think there are better explanations than "making weaponry harder to access makes people shoot guys more often"

[Rally]

course you moved to monono when i'd already said japan, which has 127 million people, roughly 1/3 of the US population, and had 1/5600 the amount of gun related deaths as the US had in 2014.

Yeah, but they're both pacific islands right? It's probably just as easy to get the guns to Japan as it is to get them to Manono. The only way to get guns to Japan and Australia is to smuggle them over in shipping containers and hope nobody checks them.

The guns are already in America. All 300 million of them. They're made by completely ordinary Americans lol.

[Darth C3P0²]

< it works on a tiny island in the middle of boondocks, pacific
< it'll work in the biggest gun manufacturing country in the world

This is literally how the liberal brain operates

Yeah, Nonnel. Thats how your tiny limbolic brain works

[Tayasaurus]

Well, the whole point of bump fire is that it circumvents all the restrictions on an RDIAS, which cost waaaay more money than a bump fire kit.

Of course, he could have had an unregistered sear, but that would make the weapon entirely illegal, thus negating the cries (in this specific case, of course) for better gun control

Yeah I know all of that, I was just looking for a weapons confirmation which most sources have been stingy about at best. Whether or not bumpfire devices should be heavily regulated or not is an entirely different discussion as it stands, I'm a firearms enthusiast myself and I'm still debating on making that gun megathread in light of current events. If the guns he obtained were illegal to begin with then people who do have an agenda have nothing to go on.

[Nonnel]

Yeah, but they're both pacific islands right? It's probably just as easy to get the guns to Japan as it is to get them to Manono. The only way to get guns to Japan and Australia is to smuggle them over in shipping containers and hope nobody checks them.

The guns are already in America. All 300 million of them. They're made by completely ordinary Americans lol.

Civilian firearms are manufactured in Japan, too, and probably for export in every other developed country with good gun control laws.

[Tayasaurus]

making weapons =/= getting to own them

[Nonnel]

his logic is that there are no guns manufactured in japan/the pacific so it's hard to smuggle them in. which is false.

japan doesn't even have an outright ban, either. as i understand it, you just have to take a day-long class and pass safety/common sense tests as well as a psychological evaluation so you can get a permit to buy a hunting rifle or air gun.

[Rally]

Civilian firearms are manufactured in Japan, too, and probably for export in every other developed country with good gun control laws.

Who is manufacturing weapons in Japan? Anybody who manufacturers firearms in Japan is almost certainly primarily a machinery and electronics company that produces firearms on the side. If they aren't working for the government developing military firearms for, uh, the cold war, they're making .22 varmint rifles and shotguns and giving them to nobody.

The point being: Nobody cares about what works in Japan. Or Australia. Or Luxembourg. The situation is unique in America.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Yeah I know all of that, I was just looking for a weapons confirmation which most sources have been stingy about at best....If the guns he obtained were illegal to begin with then people who do have an agenda have nothing to go on.

Yeah I see
That's the biggest reason why I'm curious to know what he used
I googled "bump fire" cuz like i said earlier that was the first I heard of it, I was reading into it a bit and there's many news articles mentioning it. Hard to know whether it's official word, or just one news source stealing speculation from another

This is literally how the liberal brain operates

i mean i'd describe myself as pretty left, but i'm fairly pro-gun

[Nonnel]

Who is manufacturing weapons in Japan? Anybody who manufacturers firearms in Japan is almost certainly primarily a machinery and electronics company that produces firearms on the side. If they aren't working for the government developing military firearms for, uh, the cold war, they're making .22 varmint rifles and shotguns and giving them to nobody.

The point being: Nobody cares about what works in Japan. Or Australia. Or Luxembourg. The situation is unique in America.

why would this not work in the US? how is taking military contracts and making some shotguns and hunting rifles on the side for civilian purchase after a safety test and mental evaluation not sufficient?

[IkeTheGeneric]

maybe it's got less to do with gun control and more to do with americans not caring about mental health

spoiler alert: you're completely right