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SeventhSandwich:


--- Quote from: Trogtor on October 02, 2017, 09:12:00 AM --- who tf saying it's not terrorism?

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Pretty much everyone, and I can prove it.

Here's the search results from the term 'las vegas', now that we know the identity of the perpetrator:
(9 instances of 'shooting', 0 instances of 'terrorism/terrorist/etc')
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And here's the search results from the term 'San Bernardino', in the days after the massacre when the identities of the perpetrators were released:
(5 instances of 'shooting', 6 instances of 'terrorism/terrorist/etc'


For context: the San Bernardino attack was 4x less deadly than today's attack. The only use of the word 'terrorism' in modern media is a dog-whistle term for 'Muslim-perpetrated crime'. The same standards are provably not applied to whites committing the same or greater atrocities.

Tactical Nuke:

shooting a lot of people does not a terrorist attack make

if we knew more about this guy's motives then that might change but otherwise we're going to (((reserve judgment)))

oh haha you meant media yea forget them

Trogtor:

i figured you meant actual people. that's just how media works. you can't expect any less from them.

SeventhSandwich:


--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on October 02, 2017, 09:26:36 AM ---shooting a lot of people does not a terrorist attack make

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This is a good point. It's a well known fact that being gunned down in a crowd of people only induces terror when committed by certain ethnic groups. Victims at the scene reported, "bodily harm, pain, and blood loss, sure, but not necessarily 'terror' tbh'.

Dannu:


--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on October 02, 2017, 09:23:44 AM ----snip-

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While I do agree with you to an extent, I don't agree with using that as a valid example. With the amount of variables at play, drawing any meaningful conclusion from that is impossible.

At the time of your post, only the name of the shooter and a possible person of interest have been released. In the days after the San Bernardino attack, a clear link between the shooters and a terrorist organization had been established.

That being said, I completely agree that there is bias at play regarding how the more 'conventional' and the less 'conventional' terrorist attacks are defined.

Edit: It has also not been confirmed that this attack was politically/religiously motivated. So if a media outlet would call this terrorism, they would actually be biased.

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