Author Topic: Las Vegas Police Investigating Shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino (Read 33045 times)

torin� · October 02, 2017, 04:38:01 PM

Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on October 02, 2017, 04:33:21 PM

Right. Just have some folks carry their rifles into a concert. That's safe thing to do that Will Never Backfire. But alright, let's assume that somehow that type of security breach is never exploited somehow. Are these people in the crowd supposed to fire upward into a hotel? It's entirely unrealistic to say that having had people with guns at the site of the attack would've made a difference. Maybe in another situation, but not this one.

i like the mental image of hundreds of concert goers all shooting their guns at a hotel building

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kongo · October 02, 2017, 04:39:26 PM

train all civilians to wield 2 revolvers and scream "twelve shots is all i need" when faced with danger

Darryl McKoy · October 02, 2017, 04:40:29 PM

Quote from: AutoBahn on October 02, 2017, 04:25:59 PM

i don't know a whole lot about it but as far as I'm aware the gist of it is basically to properly train and arm citizens so that they can quickly take down an active shooter, and to support 'mild' gun control legislation such as background checks and mental health checks when applying for a firearm license.

Thanks for answering

Bar any disagreements I have with gun ownership in general, I think the mild gun control legislation would be a good start. My concern with training and arming citizens is that I think that would become a huge liability grey spot. If I shot 10 people by accident trying to take down the attacker, is that on me? I also feel like it would have to be near-military level training to prevent huge casualties from civilians trying to take down the attacker(s) in such a high stress situation.

Ragequit · October 02, 2017, 04:45:13 PM

Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on October 02, 2017, 04:33:21 PM

Right. Just have some folks carry their rifles into a concert. That's safe thing to do that Will Never Backfire. But alright, let's assume that somehow that type of security breach is never exploited somehow. Are these people in the crowd supposed to fire upward into a hotel? It's entirely unrealistic to say that having had people with guns at the site of the attack would've made a difference. Maybe in another situation, but not this one.

sorry when did i say people should bring rifles to a loving concert? of course this shooting was pretty much impossible to fight back against. not every shooting happens from a forgetin hotel 32 floors up though. the ability to defend yourself and others is entirely situational and you may not always be able to, but it's nice to have something should the situation where you're able to shoot back arises.

Jefferson Block · October 02, 2017, 04:45:58 PM

Quote from: torin� on October 02, 2017, 04:38:01 PM

i like the mental image of hundreds of concert goers all shooting their guns at a hotel building

Nonnel · October 02, 2017, 04:46:21 PM

so how could this attack have been prevented?

Drydess · October 02, 2017, 04:46:28 PM

Quote from: torin� on October 02, 2017, 04:38:01 PM

i like the mental image of hundreds of concert goers all shooting their guns at a hotel building

just another day in the proud state of texas

Doughboy · October 02, 2017, 04:49:31 PM

Quote from: Nonnel on October 02, 2017, 04:46:21 PM

so how could this attack have been prevented?

an rpg-7

AutoBahn · October 02, 2017, 04:50:33 PM

Quote from: Darryl McKoy on October 02, 2017, 04:40:29 PM

My concern with training and arming citizens is that I think that would become a huge liability grey spot. If I shot 10 people by accident trying to take down the attacker, is that on me? I also feel like it would have to be near-military level training to prevent huge casualties from civilians trying to take down the attacker(s) in such a high stress situation.

This is one of the big questions for how to take a 'pro-gun' approach to begin with. I've never really heard any solutions to this one, myself, never mind the other concerns it brings up such as the potential for police forces to misidentify the shooter and nail some random gun-owning civilian in a scenario.

Ragequit · October 02, 2017, 04:54:13 PM

Quote from: Nonnel on October 02, 2017, 04:46:21 PM

so how could this attack have been prevented?

a large security presence and perimeter.
there's no way the guy should've been let into a hotel with a fully auto weapon, this is a mistake that lies on the security of the hotel and the lvpd for not having a large enough secured perimeter

ShadowsfeaR · October 02, 2017, 04:55:14 PM

Quote from: Darryl McKoy on October 02, 2017, 04:24:08 PM

Getting defensive doesn't answer my question, I'm genuinely curious

Better education and teaching our children more forward thinking morals. If your citizens aren't stupid, understand the value of a human life, and their mental illnesses are treated as an illness and are treated, you won't have Flash Mobers.

Bisjac · October 02, 2017, 04:55:37 PM

Quote from: Nonnel on October 02, 2017, 04:46:21 PM

so how could this attack have been prevented?

the far left is being radicalized by politicians and media. this is the result.

ahoy · October 02, 2017, 04:56:34 PM

Quote from: Nonnel on October 02, 2017, 04:46:21 PM

so how could this attack have been prevented?

gun control

Rockinboy2000 · October 02, 2017, 05:10:02 PM

Quote from: ahoy on October 02, 2017, 04:56:34 PM

gun control

- Martin Luther King JR. , truly words of a wise man in action here, i think it oughta be time to listen up

Red Spy · October 02, 2017, 05:30:16 PM

Quote from: torin� on October 02, 2017, 04:38:01 PM

i like the mental image of hundreds of concert goers all shooting their guns at a hotel building