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Catalonia's independence movement died before it started

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Red Spy:


--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 27, 2017, 10:06:45 PM ---is kearn?
he's defending the CSA's right to secede based on the fact that slavery isn't objectively wrong

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you're trying to argue that secession is ok only when the people seceding believe similar things to you, no?

TristanLuigi:


--- Quote from: Red Spy on October 27, 2017, 10:08:17 PM ---you're trying to argue that secession is ok only when the people seceding believe similar things to you, no?

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no, i'm arguing that secession is ok when the people seceding are doing it for the sake of human rights
slavery is not human rights and if you think that's subjective you can forget right off

beachbum111111:


--- Quote from: Nonnel on October 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM ---people who advocate oppression of other people don't deserve anything lol

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The sub saharan African tribes owned and sold slaves. Do you believe that the colonization of Africa was a bad thing? Why did we let them become independent when they advocated slavery and in some places still have slaves?

Deus Ex:


--- Quote from: Nonnel on October 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM ---it's okay to secede from a country that is violating your human rights and it is okay to invade a country that is violating human rights en masse.
because human rights are infallible and law is not.
people who advocate oppression of other people don't deserve anything lol

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Hnnnnng

Red Spy:


--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 27, 2017, 10:09:05 PM ---no, i'm arguing that secession is ok when the people seceding are doing it for the sake of human rights

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so yes

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