Catalonia's independence movement died before it started

[Renderman In A Bowl]

Communism doesn't allow for such a silly thing such as borders!

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[Deus Ex]

What's the point of borders when everyone's too starved and poor to travel anyway

[Nonnel]

TIL giving 2 millennia of technological advancement and a century of guidance from the most advanced civilizations in human history to a continent that barely even developed the wheel independently before transitioning them into independent nations and leaving them well-developed modern architecture and infrastructure is a meaningless trifle in comparison to the raw materials they sold on export

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*depopulating a continent so you can use their people for labor, stealing its resources with more of its people, setting their people against each other, just straight up killing ~13 million people and mutilating more because they're not reaching your slavery quotas, (this one was a humanitarian effort btw) and dividing up their land by drawing lines on a map with no regard towards the fact that people and tribes with complex relations with one another live on those lands is hardly what i would call "guidance."

and modern infrastructure?
???

europeans forgeted up africa and there is literally no way around that.

[Verification]

the borders that you have to, you know, decide that you'll have when you make a country otherwise there will be disputes? or in catalonia's case, what they'll decide is what they want in and outside of the province?

Communism doesn't allow for such a silly thing such as borders!

do they legit not have borders? are they declaring themselves a freestate or some stuff?

What's the point of borders when everyone's too starved and poor to travel anyway

the ussr and all states it split into had borders

[Deus Ex]

Hi my username is Verification. I have no idea what a joke is

[TristanLuigi]

the borders that you have to, you know, decide that you'll have when you make a country otherwise there will be disputes? or in catalonia's case, what they'll decide is what they want in and outside of the province?

do they legit not have borders? are they declaring themselves a freestate or some stuff?
the ussr and all states it split into had borders

they're just memeing, the borders of a catalonian republic would presumably be the current borders of the catalonian region
and catalonia is not communist, not sure why people seem to think that

[Renderman In A Bowl]

they're just memeing, the borders of a catalonian republic would presumably be the current borders of the catalonian region
and catalonia is not communist, not sure why people seem to think that

Are you pretending to be handicapped or are you actually this loving handicapped

[Red Spy]

*depopulating a continent so you can use their people for labor, stealing its resources with more of its people, setting their people against each other, just straight up killing ~13 million people and mutilating more because they're not reaching your slavery quotas, (this one was a humanitarian effort btw) and dividing up their land by drawing lines on a map with no regard towards the fact that people and tribes with complex relations with one another live on those lands is hardly what i would call "guidance."

and modern infrastructure?
???

europeans forgeted up africa and there is literally no way around that.

didn't the arabs enslave and kill like 200 million people

[Verification]

we'll find out soon enough if catalonia is communist if they get an economic collapse that lasts more than 5 years after being independant.

[Nonnel]

didn't the arabs enslave and kill like 200 million people

wouldn't doubt it. i wouldn't call that guidance, either, though.

[beachbum111111]

*depopulating a continent so you can use their people for labor, stealing its resources with more of its people, setting their people against each other, just straight up killing ~13 million people and mutilating more because they're not reaching your slavery quotas, (this one was a humanitarian effort btw) and dividing up their land by drawing lines on a map with no regard towards the fact that people and tribes with complex relations with one another live on those lands is hardly what i would call "guidance."

and modern infrastructure?
???

europeans forgeted up africa and there is literally no way around that.

It's cute because without modern medicine from us filthy westerners among the many other advancements we gave them Africas population would be loving tiny compared to what it is now

[Kearn]

*depopulating a continent so you can use their people for labor

haha yeah totally was europe doing the enslaving and not the africans themselves selling slaves to traders as they had done to the arabs for centuries

and wow hardly anyone lives in africa anymore weird

stealing its resources with more of its people

which they TOTALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPLOIT ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT EVEN HAVING INVENTED THE WHEEL AND WHICH THEY TOTALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY OF ANYMORE

and modern infrastructure?

we wuz architects

It's cute because without modern medicine from us filthy westerners among the many other advancements we gave them Africas population would be loving tiny compared to what it is now

it's quadrupled in 60 years but don't worry we're actually secretly killing them all with our medicine and modern farming techniques

[Nonnel]

so you're saying.. sending in foreign aid has worked historically

[beachbum111111]

so you're saying.. sending in foreign aid has worked historically

If by 'foreign aid' you mean 'hostile takeover' then yes

[Kearn]

the problem with direct foreign aid is you're not giving them the ability to sustain themselves, you're just creating a temporary stopgap which allows their population to grow at which point you have double the number of people and they're all still starving