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| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on October 10, 2017, 03:11:04 PM ---The Catalan leader sorta pussied out of actually declaring independence. What he said was that he'd respect the vote results (so Catalonia will secede) but first negotiate with the Spanish government. --- End quote --- "can i leave" "go forget yourself" |
| Maxwell.:
Catalans declare independence as Madrid imposes direct rule it's time to crack open a cold one with the boys |
| kongo:
--- Quote from: Juncoph on October 10, 2017, 11:47:35 AM ---European Council President Donald Tusk is among those to have urged Mr Puigdemont not to declare independence. --- End quote --- the donalds are rising |
| beachbum111111:
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| Plethora:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on October 10, 2017, 02:13:08 PM ---Wow I haven't seen an unskewed result like that since the Crimea referendum. Totally legit. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Nonnel on October 10, 2017, 12:47:06 PM ---90% of the voters supported independence so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --- End quote --- In reality between 35 and 50% of Catalonians are in favor of independence (as I read it in the Wall Street Journal). The high favor in the voting booth stems in part from major leaders in the anti-independence camp discouraging participation in the vote because they feel that participation would legitimize the vote itself (and therefore the result), a point they and the central government of Spain haven't ceded. |
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