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Catalonia's independence movement died before it started
Deus Ex:
--- Quote from: LeisureSuit912 on October 28, 2017, 10:36:03 AM ---And that's rich coming from someone who unironically believes white genocide is real
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Never said it was real forgettard
I just said it wasn't tribal
There you guys go again with the disingenuous argumentation, it's almost like you love the feeling of shotgunning half your toes off
Renderman In A Bowl:
--- Quote from: Juncoph on October 28, 2017, 08:38:36 AM ---muh states rights [to having other people as property]
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yeah exactly, I oppose slavery but with Tristan just saying slavery was the only factor proves he is an idiot
Badger:
--- Quote from: Deus Ex on October 27, 2017, 10:47:01 PM ---This just in: Handing people free stuff is not development
There is literally no room for growth because we stick our richards in and offer free everything
Why be learn to be a doctor when there are free clinics funded by the west
Why be a farmer when we're sending free food all the time
Why even loving bother doing anything when all your hardships are taken care of by outside forces
It's not rocket science, you're literally arguing that giving Africans fish is better than teaching how to loving fish
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I'm not saying you're fully wrong, It's for sure better to give someone the means of production rather than a product. If a countries basic needs are filled with what they need like food and medical aid for free, yeah, they're not going to do much because they get it for free. Although, when the aid steadies out at a normal rate the people of the country will start growing naturally on their own because they aren't busy trying to scrape up enough food for their family or whatever else they are lacking. Once this stability is introduced then infrastructure can be built on because the country will have a stable population that isn't dying.
Much easier for me to work and contribute to society building better infrastructure if I'm not malnourished or dying from some disease because I've been chugging jungle juice from the swamp. Then after awhile I should be able to take care of myself and I won't need the help anymore as my own country has stability, functioning government, jobs, education, etc.
Giving basic aid and handouts is an important part in the road of development.
TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: Renderman In A Bowl on October 28, 2017, 10:46:31 AM --- yeah exactly, I oppose slavery but with Tristan just saying slavery was the only factor proves he is an idiot
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It may not have been the only factor in the entire war, but it was definitely the main one. The others are basically irrelevant - I'm not going to support the secession of a region if the main reason is to defend slavery. "State's rights" is mostly "state's rights to slavery," and as Magus pointed out, the Fugitive Slave Act proves they didn't actually care about state's rights to much else. It doesn't matter if their economy depended on slavery - that doesn't make it okay to defend slavery. Riddler's lebensraum and Stalin's famines was also for economic reasons, but that didn't make it okay. Finally, I don't know what you're talking about with "military protection," clearly the Union would have protected them had they not seceded.
I feel like you're only defending the Confederacy because libruls hate it.
Køtt:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 28, 2017, 12:17:39 PM ---I feel like you're only defending the Confederacy because libruls hate it.
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But The Confederacy Is Democrats.......
How Would...Liberals Hate Liberals...? Thonk.