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beachbum111111:


--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:11:42 AM ---Consider that the 2014 US elections only had 36% turnout

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no stuff there was no election in 2014

TristanLuigi:


--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on October 29, 2017, 12:14:04 AM ---no stuff there was no election in 2014

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bwahaha are you serious
do you really have no idea that midterm elections exist

beachbum111111:


--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:14:46 AM ---pffft do you actually think this is true
this is hilarious

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Oh your talking about the house of representatives. Something no one cares about. Why not pick an example that actually matters?

Kearn:

you do understand that the "rights" a person has are entirely up to the whims of the dominant society, right? do you think the muslim world would agree gay marriage and abortion are "rights"? the overwhelming majority of the world would disagree with you on a huge swath of what you consider "rights" and the fact that you seem to think that people have the right to violate the democratically established laws of their own country is amazing to me

beachbum111111:


--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:11:42 AM --- (And by definition, rights do not have to be "earned" - they simply are.)

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Rights are not these magical loving things that transcend reality. The only rights you have are the ones given to you by your government.

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